(Agh, I'm not in fifth period, but, rather, seventh, and I would like to know if we could have one of these set up, as well. Sorry to interrupt! I can delete this, if necessary.)
So as your group co-leader I think I should probably make some effort to keep people on task and remind you what needs to be done over the weekend...so yeah...read the novel. It's like, 50 pages or something. Not even, so no excuses, seriously. It is not hard to read. Also please be noting pages you would want to draw. Everyone needs to bring at least three pages they want to draw so we can discuss it and pick who will be drawing what.
And yeah I know you all remember this and have probably done it already, but i know that I frequently forget stuff like this so I thought a small reminder might be helpful...
So, to start the divy-ing of the scenes, I will take whatever is left over. I have read the story and do not care what I get. I will take the scraps that people dislike.
Here is the list of who is working on what chapter:
ONE: Ari F. Jaz Alex L. Ari H-C Reid Aaron Jordyn Feruza Julia** Desiree
TWO: Aliyah Nate Marissa Sidney Ran Alejandra Alex G. Elissa Tess**
THREE: Katie Dan Kayleigh Benji Irvin Jeffrey Althea Rob Sasha**
Asterisks indicate people who will be badgering everyone else and making sure they stay on task. Basically, we'll be annoying all of you to make sure this gets done.
I've made a list of scenes by going through the book and marking out what seems to divide it. We can discuss this more in class. -Tess
thanks tess. and desiree, the additional articles are the three readings we got in class on monday after finishing the in-class essay. if you haven't gotten those, then you should stop by sharp's and get them, the sub said we were going to discuss them next period (~thurs). i hope that's what you were talking about ^^; -feruza
How did Julia get picked to "badger" everyone? I don't remember voting on that. I don't appreciate all this cronyism. Also, what are the guidelines in terms of how and what we draw? I don't want to work on something only to find out its way out of place. Personally, I think The Metamorphos is very dreamlike, I mean, waking up as a bug and not freaking out, as if it is nothing but an annoying pest, makes it seem like having variety among setting, coloring, and overall style wouldn't be too big an issue. I think to have drastic changes across each person's panel, yet carrying on with the story as if these changes are perfectly normal or non-existent fits right in with Gregor's character, so it would be appropriate for the graphic novel, as long as we maintained a clear story line so the reader would know what was going on. Everyone draws somewhat differently, so some variety is inevitable- we might as well embrace it. Also, dibs on the scene where his family first sees him as a bug.
Sorry this is so late! I feel terrible, but the chemistry webassign + lacrosse practice made it difficult. Sorry! SCENES: Chapter I 1)"As Gregor Samsa awoke..." to "For the time being, however, I must get up because my train leaves at five." 2) "And he looked at the alarm clock ticking on the bureau" to "He had no doubt that the change in his voice was nothing more than the presentiment of a severe cold, an ailment common among traveling salesmen" 3) "The coverlet was easy to throw off..." to "Despite his predicament, he could not supress a smile at these thoughts" 4) "He was already out so far that he could barely keep his balance..." to "The room on the left fell into uncomfortable silence, the sister began sobbing in the room to the right" 5) "Why did the sister not join the others?" to "In this way he also managed to gain control of himself and fell silent, as he could now listen to the head clerk" 6) "'Did you understand even a word?'" to "'So I didn't need the locksmith after all,' and pressed his head against the handle in order to completely open the door" 7) Since he had to pull the door open in this way..." to "The door to the foyer was open, and since the apartment door was also open, one could see out to the landing and the top of the stairs leading down" 8) "'Well now,' said Gregor..." to "She bent her head down as if to see Gregor better but instead ran contradictorily and madly backward and, having forgotten that the laden table stood behind her, sat down on it thoughtlessly and hastily, seemingly oblivious to the large overturned coffee pot next to her from which coffee was pouring in a steady stream onto the carpet" 9) "'Mother, Mother,' Gregor said softly..." to "The door was slammed shut with the stick, then all was still."
Chapter II--I know it has like, 12 scenes, but Group 2 has the most people, and the chapter was getting too long. some people would have been drawing five or so pages (exaggeration, yes, but not by much) for their scenes, so it seemed more far to break them up a bit and give variety to those people who want it and are willing to take on more. 1) "It was twilight..." to "In fact, it was almost in revulsion that he turned away from the bowl and crawled back in the middle of the room." 2) "In the living room, as Gregor could..." to "For now he must lie low and try, through patience and the greatest consideration, to help his family bear the inconvenience he was bound to cause them in his present condition" 3) "So early in the morning that it was almost still night..." to "Hardly had she turned her back when Gregor came out from under the sofa, stretched, and puffed himself out." 4) "Gregor was fed twice daily..." to "She was tearfully thankful for the dismissal, as if it were the greatest service they had ever conferred upon her, and with no prompting swore a dreadful oath never to breathe to anyone a word of what had happened" 5) "Now the sister also had to cook..." to "'What's he up to now?' the father said after a while, obviously turned toward the door, and only then did the interrupted conversation resume." 6) "Gregor was now very thoroughly informed..." to "Gregor let go of the door and threw himself onto the cool leather sofa nearby, he felt so flushed with shame and grief." 7) "He often lay there through the whole night..." to "...and Gregor imagined he caught a grateful look once when he cautiously raised the sheet a little with his head to see how the sister was taking the new arrangement" 8) "During the first two weeks..." to "...and she got it into her head to allow Gregor the widest crawling space possible by the removal of the furniture that hindered him, namely the bureaus and the desk" 9-this is really long, might split) "She was not, however, able to do this alone..." to "...because from sheer exhaustion they were struggling in silence and only the heavy shuffling of their feet could be heard" 10) "And so he broke out..." to "...he began to crawl, to crawl al over, over everything, walls, furniture, ceiling, and finally fell in despair, when the whole room was spinning, onto the middle of the large table." 11) "A little while passed, Gregor still lay..." to "and with her arms flung around his neck, she begged the father to spare Gregor's life."
Chapter III 1) "Gregor's serious injury, from which he suffered..." to "'How long you're sewing again today!' and instantly fell back aslepp while mother and sister exchanged a tired smile" 2) "Out of some absurd obstinacy..." to "'Go shut that door, Grete,' and Gregor was in darkness again while next door the women mingled their tears or stared dry-eyed at the table" 3) "Gregor spent the days and nights almost...." to "...and Gregor hissed furiously because no one had thought to close his door and spare him this racket and spectacle" 4) "But even if the sister..." to "...Gregor waded through the junk pile and set it in motion, at first out of necessity because there was no other free space to crawl but later with increasing pleasure, though after these forays he lay still for hours, achingly tired and miserable" 5-this is very long, lots of action) "Since the boarders sometimes..." to "Thereupon he grabbed the door handle and banged shut the door." 6) The father staggered and groped for his chair..." to "'But instead this creature persecutes us and drives out the boarders; it obviously wants to take over the whole apartment and throw us out into the gutter.'" 7) "'Just look, Father!', she suddenly screamed, 'he's at it again!'" to "'Finally!' She cried to the parents as she turned the key in the lock" 8)"'What now?' Gregor wondered..." to "'Come and look at this, it's croaked; it's lying there, dead as a doornail!'" 9) "Herr and Frau Samsa sat up..." to "They filed into the now fully lit room and circled around Gregor's corpse, with their hands in the pockets of their rather shabby coats" 10) "Just then the bedroom door opened..." to "Herr Samsa and the women quit the banister and, as if relieved, returned to the apartment" 11) "They decided to spend..." to "The women promptly obeyed him, carressed him, and hurriedly finished their letters." 12) "Then all three left the apartment together..." to "And it was like a confirmation of their new dreams and good intentions that at their journey's end their daughter jumped to her feet and stretched her young body."
Okay, so before anyone says anything: I know I did not adhere the the nine scene plan. However, after reading the book about seven times in an attempt to find a way to make it only seven scenes, I realized this was absurd, a number we picked to match the number of people, that did not work with the book. As is, there are some ridiculously long scenes that probably need to be split, and had I put only nine for every single chapter it would have been insane. So we'll see what gets claimed and go from there as far as scenes go.
Reid, Julia was "picked" because she was very enthusiastic and bothered me outside of class about helping out and in fact did help me out with some tasks. Had anyone else shown that degree of enthusiasm I would have gladly given them the role, but as it was Julia was the loudest and most excited and overly helpful, therefore she gets to help out.
So far, here is what has been claimed: Aaron-- Chapter I, scene 8 (or scene 9, your pick) Aliyah--Chapter II, scene 8 Reid--Chapter I, scene 7 Ari F.--Chapter I, scene 1 (if someone else wants scene 1 really bad, i'll give you scene 6, and vice versa)
ALSO Reid I love your ideas! Sorry I looked at you so blankly in class when you said that, my brain was on overdrive. But that is a very good idea. It will add a sort of supernatural quality to the plain atmosphere of the novel, which fits Kafka's peculiar style exactly. If people can post their ideas for how to carry out Reid's plan on here first so we can make sure we're all on the same page that would be lovely!
Also I had an idea I want to throw out there: what about a color scheme that started out as grays and browns and grew slowly lighter? Gregor's room should always be gray and black and brown and get darker, but everything else should get brighter colors so we get a visual representation of the changing mood of the book.
Here are the req's we talked about in class: -1 inch margin on ALL SIDES. -brown bug, two antennae, six legs -Scarab/dung beetle -handwritten captions and dialogue, block all-caps -black outline of drawings -colored pencil (?) did we agree on this? I cannot remember if we decided that was weird or good. Does anyone?
Also, perspective/point-of-view. I believe it should be from Gregor's perspective. Yes, no? If not, why?
ALL DRAWINGS DUE MONDAY! If we don't get them monday, they're probably gonna be stapled into the book, which will look terrible. I know that as LASA kids you guys are obviously very driven (when you want to be). Please be driven for this! Come on, we gotta prove that all that Gifted and Talented training Mr Sharp did actually had an effect...
Once again, I am sorry this is late. Please feel free to give all suggestions on this board. Obviously Reid had a great idea, and thank god he spoke up, so follow his lead please!
I'm gonna vote no on the Gregor's perspective, simply because the novel is written in third person and many of the scenes will lose dramatic effect as well as easily draw-ability with everything coming from the perspective of Gregor. That's not to say that it can't be used in a more artistic way - the first scene especially would be very good with this technique in my opinion, but I'm sure there are others - but for the majority of the novel a more narrative stance is taken.
Somebody put what happens in each scene. I am getting annoyed having to look online at where each piece of text begins and ends. Wait... Maybe I should. Nah, the group leaders should do that because they picked out each scene. It would have been much easier if they told us what happens in each mini-scene. Gosh!
Perhaps that was not a well put statement... However, the fact remains that Tess needs to write what happens in each of the twelve mini-scenes in scene 2 so that we can decide which parts we want to do. I don't wanna re-read it!
so comments/concerns... I agree with Reid and Sasha, and yes we did agree with the black outline and pencil coloring and such. I agree that it should not be in Gregor's perspective because the book obviously isnt... my question is, we are allowed to have more than one page for our scenes right?? and if we do end up having for example 2 pages, should we continue our scene on the back of page 1 or start off fresh on a new paper? i think starting on a new paper would make the comic more neat (black outline might run through the paper....). what do yall think??... and the dialogues,we are just writing out the important dialogues for each character right? hm... so did we as a class decide on the proportions of Gregor compared with a normal human (say his manager or sister)?? we said his width was around 3/4 feet-ish but i dont remember having a final vote on his overall size. if we did, can someone post that on here? that would be helpful. oh and tess/sasha, this might not be a big issue, but are you guys going to number the pages when you have it all together? or should we put those in before monday? and who is making the cover...??
Tess is binding the book, and Jaz, I'm sure there would be no problem with you drawing a cover. Jeffrey - Yes. Feruza, there is no limit on the pages that you can draw, but I would like to go ahead and say that you should probably make each extra page you draw another physical sheet of paper for continuity purposes - those who are only doing one page will have only the front part of that page with illustration on it.
Don't number the pages, too, that'll happen when we see who draws what for how many pages.
I'll take chapter three, scene eleven. And just to compile a list of the scenes already taken again -
Aaron-- Chapter I, scene 8 (or scene 9, your pick) Aliyah--Chapter II, scene 8 Reid--Chapter I, scene 7 Ari F.--Chapter I, scene 1 Sydney -- Chapter II, scene 11 Jeffrey -- Chapter III, scene 3 Feruza -- Chapter I, scene 4 Jaz -- Chapter I, scene 3 Sasha -- Chapter III, scene eleven
and update on taken scenes: CHAPTER I Scene I--Ari (which one?) Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jaz Scene 4--Feruza Scene 5-- Scene 6-- Scene 7--Reid Scene 8--Aaron possibly? Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II Scene 1-- Scene 2-- Scene 3-- Scene 4-- Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6-- Scene 7-- Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9-- Scene 10-- Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III Scene 1--Dan Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jeffrey Scene 4-- Scene 5-- Scene 6-- Scene 7-- Scene 8--Rob Scene 9--Benji Scene 10-- Scene 11--Sasha Scene 12--
ill take chapter 2 scene 4, and my second choice will be chapter 2 scene 10, if we end up having to do two...
and also i agree with reid, i dont much care for julia as our leader, in fact, even though i am part of scene 2, i vote me as leader of scene 1, nay leader of the entire project,
I agree with Ari on the size. We should set that as a standard. Also, did we decide that there would be no bubble dialogue? I was planning to put all of the dialogue in the caption below by quoting whoever said it. example (not real): Gregor listened as his mother said, "Gross!" and proceeded to scurry off under the couch. Would this go along with the rest of the class's captions, or am I the only one planning to do it?
Jordyn - we decided on portrait (vertical) pages. and adding onto Alex's question, i dont think it really matters on what kind of bubble we use right? if we end up having the characters thinking, wouldnt it be better to use bubble-dialogue?? just a thought...
and for those who are doing scenes with Gregor's manager (and his sister...), did we decide on his looks? i was thinking maybe dark/navy suit, square rimmed glasses, and somewhat of a professional look. also tall/slim guy...
Nate, i dont think it really matters all that much whos leader in which group; as long as we pull this off as a class, then its all good.
both Ari's, please indicate which one you are XD so confusing guys. ...
Hopefully, nobody has started yet, because I think we should have a standard for what is in Gregor's room. From the text, I have procured several details about the furniture in Gregor's room. However, I have no idea how it is arranged, or where the door (or doors) is (are). That part was not clear. This refers to the state of his room before the rearrangement. The state of his room afterwords is addressed later. What I have so far is as follows:
-Obviously the sofa -A Bureau/Chest of Drawers with tools in it -Some sort of decorations on the walls, including the picture of the lady which is on top of the large table mentioned below -Flowered wallpaper* -His writing desk -A large table -A window looking out to the street -The door to his room is a double door with a small crack between the two side doors. *denotes insignificant details
NOTE: These things only apply before they move Gregor's furniture around. When they moved it, they took out a few pieces of furniture (including the chest of drawers and the writing desk but not the sofa) and rendered the walls devoid of all decorations (except the painting and perhaps one other thing).
NOTE #2: Depending on the angle you draw Gregor's room from, you may not (and probably will not) have all of these things.
QUESTION: Should we include Gregor's bed? Obviously, he woke up on it, so it must be there. It seems that Gregor's room is already packed full of furniture, but that is quite an important piece of furniture (although only mentioned only at the beginning of the book).
Tell me if I forgot any of the details. Anyone with more should post them immediately. Do not start drawing until you are sure of what needs to be in your particular scene.
I hate that we are doing these pictures portrait. It makes no sense whatsoever. It is easier to draw a room landscape because if one draws it portrait he/she has to draw it from an unnatural angle.
Also, anybody who has already started drawing, please tell everybody just so that we can keep tabs on the details in whatever you are drawing and your formatting. Thanks.
His room has a carpet floor, but, depending on the meaning of the word "carpet" in the early 20th century, it may be referring to a rug or partial covering of the floor.
well depending on which scene each person does and from whichever angle they draw, they might not have all the furniture and details of Gregor's room included in their drawings... and yea i think people should post anything else pertaining to these kinds of details asap. ...(hm seems like not many people are posting so far, except for the same people whove been posting..)
another thing to add to any scene in chapter one would be Gregor's clock. not a significant item i know. i drew mine in a circle shape with its base being a long rectangle. its not final though.
i dont remember whose idea this was (tess'?)but they mentioned a color scheme for the mood that progress from scene one to the last scene. ..? should we vote on that on here? i really like this idea because it is an important aspect of the story (the way the family grows happier as Gregor's days come to an end).
It may be too late now, but the text clearly said that he had a distinct head that he "tilted sideways." I don't think a scarab can do that. Maybe I should just let it go...
I have already started drawing, at the moment though i am still holding back until we get everyone else's feedback and such. so my scene is 4 from chapter 1, basically what happens here is Gregor falls down from the bed, office manager enters house and hears Gregor falling. They demand him open the door. His sister is not joined in with the family and shes in the next door room, crying. what i have so far on my paper is a clock and the office manager entering through the door. i believe my scenes will not require many details of the door, except maybe when samsa falls. im just doing each part of the scene depending on how important they are. (important ones = somewhat unproportionally larger than others)
i just thought of this..in what order, and from where, are we drawing from? the right hand corner and go across and start again from the bottom? or from the left hand corner? 0.0
the portrait idea is good because it allows us more room and it shows, compared to the landscape, a progress of one part of the scene to the other better than drawing it horizontally. thats just my opinion on this.
There are two doors in his room. One is from the living room, and the other is from the hall. This is just from Kafka writing, "living room door," and "door from the hall into his room." Also, it says later that he "scurried right away to the appropriate door."
I feel like I'm writing an essay, quoting all of these things...
I think that the portrait format will work better for some scenes, than for others. Really, it is just whichever works best for the most scenes. If most people voted for portrait, than I guess they are fine with it for the scene they are doing. It kinda sucks for my scene, but if it works better for everybody else, what can I say...
Ok guys, a couple of things: 1) Even though I like the idea of the color shift I honestly think its a disaster waiting to happen. Hardly anyone is keeping up with all of these posts and to get something like that to look purposeful and artistic it would take alot more communication than we have right now. 2) It doesnt really matter if the bug looks and functions EXACTLY like a scarab 3) I was thinking about the color scheme, has anyone started coloring yet? I know we agreed that gregor would be brown, which is fine, but I was thinking maybe the other characters could have some defining color too, to help to keep things consistent despite our different interpretations and drawing styles? Maybe red for the father because of his mostly negative attitude towards gregor, blue for the mother, yellow for the sister? Iono, just an idea, if we can manage to keep a color scheme strait then we dont have to worry as much about consistency in the depictions.
I would like to do chapter 1 scene 5. This is the part where the manager tells Gregor to come to work and expresses his complaints against him. Gregor then pushes himself upright against the chest of doors.
Here are some textual details in addition to those Alex mentioned:
-4 walls -Table has fabric samples on it (those including the table in their scene should communicate to determine the arrangement, colors and patterns, and number of fabric samples) -Picutre of woman with fur boa and hat above the table (Alex said it was on the table, but it is actually hanging above it). The picture is from a glossy magazine and has a gilt frame. The woman is sitting upright and raising a heavy fur muff that engulfs her forearm. Again, those including this in their scene should coordinate the details such as hair color and dress of the woman. -The weather outside the window is overcast and foggy. -Gregor has a spot on his belly with white dots. -There is a rug behind Gregor's bed which he crasehs onto, but I'm not sure if it is another rug in addtion to the carpeted flooring or if it is the carpeted flooring. I will assume it is a different rug. -The manager has patent leather boots. -First the alarm clock reads 6:30. Then it hits 6:45 and 7:00 depending on your scene.
I have drawn a rough skect of the room, and since I cannot post it I will describe it. Feel free to comment or make any suggestions, especially if you have already started drawing and have done something different (I have not started drawing yet). I have also made color suggestions for the sake of uniformity, but those are open to change as well.
Gregor's room is rectangular with the double doors roughly in the the middle (slightly to the left) of one of the long sides of the rectangle. Across the room on the other long side is the window just right of the top left corner if you look at the room from an aeiral view. Gregor's bed is in the top right corner, and there is a small 3.5 x 2 feet rug at the end of it. The long side of the bed runs along the back wall of the room. Gregor's chest of drawers is next to the head of the bed (which is in the corner), and has the alarm clock on it. In the bottom right corner is the large table with the fabric samles and picture hanging above it (since the tabe is in the corner, the picture could either be on the short or long sides of the rectangle. I chose the long side because it is more visible to Gregor from his bed). The hallway door (not the double door leading to the living room) is found between the chest of drawers and the table. Gregor's writing desk is in the bottom left corner, just left of the double doors. The couch is next to the writing desk, so it is against the left short wall and near the top left corner. Color Suggestions: -gray carpet with dark green rug -faded lavender couch, perhaps 2 brown cushions -brown table, bureau, and chest of drawers -black alarm clock with wooden rectangular base. I think we should make it like the old fashioned alarm clocks with bells at the top. I will do dots or roman numerals (depending on how close) instead of numbers. -gray breadspread with white sheets.
Character Suggestions: -The manager can have short black hair with dark brown eyes. -The mother has messed up unbraided hair (this is mentioned in the text). She is wearing a skirt (probably long) which I will color light purple. She can be wearing a white long-sleeve shirt. I imagined her with long gray hair and brown eyes. -The father can be wearing a dark blue robe (I'm not sure what is mentioned in the text). He can have short gray hair and brown eyes.
The only problem with this setup is that Gregor must pull himself up on the chest of drawers, which I placed next to the head of the bed. However, Gregor crashes out of the end of his bed.
New chapter list! Jordyn--Chapter I scene six has already been claimed by the Ari's. CHAPTER I Scene I--Ari F Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jaz Scene 4--Feruza Scene 5-- Scene 6--Ari H-C Scene 7--Reid Scene 8--Aaron possibly? Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II Scene 1-- Scene 2-- Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7-- Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9-- Scene 10-- Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III Scene 1--Dan Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jeffrey Scene 4-- Scene 5-- Scene 6--Katie Scene 7-- Scene 8--Rob Scene 9--Benji Scene 10--Irvin Scene 11--Sasha Scene 12--Kayleigh
Nate--does it look to you like Julia "leading" has made any difference? No. Please can we limit this to things that are real problems?
Desiree, Alex, and Feruza. I love you guys. Much as I grumble to myself at having to read your long posts, they are MARVELOUSLY helpful and will be be instrumental in our continuity in the long run.
To answer questions raised: Standard size: 6' long, 3' wide, 1' tall Carpeted means wood floor with a rug.
ALSO: Please stop raising issues that have already been resolved. We have so many things to worry about as is without getting into things we have already voted on. Plus too many posts makes it hard for me to parse out what is actually an issue and needs to be addressed. As in, please stop talking about the Julia thing, it hasn't even made any difference at all, and also he is a scarab, and we are drawing them portrait. End of story. Thanks.
And can people post questions with the heading "QUESTION" like alex did? That was incredibly helpful. Sorry if I didn't address everything.
(Also Desiree that sounds good. Could you just move the chest of drawers? Would that be too much trouble?)
If people have immediate questions feel free to call me: 405.642.0340 I am trying to spend a lot of time on here but I have other homework/activities/etc so it is difficult to respond with the necessary speed. ALSO IF YOU HAVE NOT CLAIMED A SCENE CLAIM ONE NOW!!!!
No i'll call ari! Good job jordyn, damn. I'll get ahold of him and tell him that you've already done it so if he could pick another one...unless he is finished too, then you both have to fight. In a cage. To the death.
Desiree, i loved the description of the room, it was very helpful, thank you. along with the character designs. thanks alot =]
i think we have agreed upon pretty much everything by now. all that is needed are the actual drawings people have made or are still in the process of making. if people keep posting descriptions of their drawings, it would be helpful for others in deciding how to draw their own, for example if their scene comes up right after an already drawn out scene. thanks guys ^^
also, if people want to email (jolzgrafe@gmail.com) me their scanned pics, I can find a place for them and link to them, so that we have an idea of what other people are doing
Desiree, we are going to have slightly different rooms because I already drew mine with the bureau next to the door, but across the room (both on the long wall) from the bed. It is going to be impossible to get everybody to have the exact same room, though, so we just need to make sure that we have the exact same things in each room. We could forward everybody (via e-mail) one of our rooms to model theirs after. It would be worth a try. However, I am just going to put what I have in my drawing:
-desk in the bottom right corner of the room -chair right in front of desk (to the left of it in 2-D drawing) -bureau to the left of the desk (above it in drawing 2-D) -alarm clock on desk -two doors (I can still erase one if you guys don't like it). One of them is at the top center and the other in the right center wall -the top and bottom walls are short and the side walls are long (as was convenient for the portrait format) -an extra painting besides the woman in fur in the top left corner -the woman in fur painting (which I meant to say earlier was hanging over the bureau, not on top of it) -a bed at the bottom left corner -a sofa at the top left corner(right below the extra painting in 2-D) -the window cannot be seen in my drawing but it is supposed to be next to the desk and bed on the bottom wall -a table in the top right corner of the room
I will email everybody an email (as long as I have it saved) with the scanned picture in it.
NOTE: My drawing is a piece of garbage compared to what most of ya'll will have. I will make it better but my lack of artistic intelligence will hinder my ability to draw anything remotely aesthetically pleasing. This drawing is just to show where everything is.
Jeffrey, I did not read your idea. I feel dumb now. Oh well. But still, if you want to see my drawing, use the username and password above or check your email to see if I sent it to you. Everything is labeled just to make sure you know what it is. Yeah, its that bad.
Okay, I put it on the email. Its GraphicNovelMetamorphosis@yahoo.com. I forgot to say that. pass: Crappyart. Do not have enough of yall's email addresses so I am just putting it in the inbox of the one I made.
Why don't we just have an electronic art show? Everybody should put their drawings on The Yahoo (as some technologically handicapped people would say). Mine is in black and white right now. Feel free to send it, unfinished, or not.
Ok, since im not sure what people want with the color scheme I am going with a yellow dress for the sister, she also has her hair back in a low pony tail, otherwise i am following desiree's suggestions, aka; i amend the list of colors, now the fathers uniform is dark blue (as she said his robe would be), and the mother is wearing a purple skirt and white shirt and has grey hair, and gregor is brown. ok? if we can keep that consistent it would be great. :)
hah thanks for that idea Alex, and nice password too ^^; i hope we can get everyone's drawings in that email-inbox by tomorrow night so then everyone would be able to see what we have so far. Althea - i think we should just stick with what you suggested since not many ideas are being thrown around on here...
Alex - its a very good sketch but wasnt the size of Gregor wider than the doors?? just wondering, because in your sketch he seems alot smaller than what we had voted on...
Rob - hm..i think it would be better to paraphrase since most of the dialogue is long and we need room for all that in our drawings. i would say paraphrase, unless its short and simple... others, post opinions on that here!
Althea, how long did you make the sister's dress? What is the style of it? what is her hair color? Her eye color? I think it should be dark to keep consistency with the family.
Also, let's stick with desiree's color ideas, but let's have the walls be grey-green and the bed be four poster (just becuase it will be so much cooler to draw)
Sorry, Feruza, you're right. Gregor is too small in my drawing. I need to make him big enough so that he cannot fit through one of the doors in the double door. However, it is hard to tell exactly how big he is just from the drawing because I am not sure how big his room is.
How many people here have scanners, because we need to see more example's of everyones art so that we can blend them and make the whole graphic novel look more uniform. Also, does anyone have any suggestions on the positioning of the furniture in my drawing? Or, for that matter, does anyone have any advice on how to make it better? The bed really sucks and I am not sure how to make it better. The other stuff ain't so hot either...
By the way, my drawing is portrait, but I scanned it landscape by accident. We are doing portrait.
I am putting all of my dialogue in the caption (which is non-existent in my first draft that I scanned). The caption will be at the bottom for me and will be about one inch high. I will type mine if that is OK.
Sorry this is so long guys, i just wanted to accumulate all the current guidelines to make it easier for people and also to avoid loosing important details in all of these millions of posts. Thanks Tess for keeping everything working!
ALL DRAWINGS DUE MONDAY!!! -Portrait (vertical page) -1 inch margin on ALL SIDES. -brown bug, two antennae, six legs -Scarab/dung beetle -handwritten captions and dialogue, block all-caps -black outline of drawings -colored pencil -1/4 of an inch margins between panels - Gregor is 3-4 feet wide, 1 ft tall, and 6 ft long -dialogue bubbles and thought bubbles, or captions (which would go below the panel)
Room Details -4 walls -Table has fabric samples on it (those including the table in their scene should communicate to determine the arrangement, colors and patterns, and number of fabric samples) -Picture of woman with fur boa and hat above the table (Alex said it was on the table, but it is actually hanging above it). The picture is from a glossy magazine and has a gilt frame. The woman is sitting upright and raising a heavy fur muff that engulfs her forearm. Again, those including this in their scene should coordinate the details such as hair color and dress of the woman. -The weather outside the window is overcast and foggy. -Gregor has a spot on his belly with white dots. -There is a rug behind Gregor's bed which he crashes onto, but I'm not sure if it is another rug in addition to the carpeted flooring or if it is the carpeted flooring. I will assume it is a different rug. -The manager has patent leather boots. -First the alarm clock reads 6:30. Then it hits 6:45 and 7:00 depending on your scene. -gray carpet with dark green rug -faded lavender couch, perhaps 2 brown cushions -brown table, bureau, and chest of drawers -black alarm clock with wooden rectangular base. I think we should make it like the old fashioned alarm clocks with bells at the top. I will do dots or roman numerals (depending on how close) instead of numbers. -gray bedspread with white sheets.
Character Descriptions -The manager can have short black hair with dark brown eyes. -The mother has messed up unbraided hair (this is mentioned in the text). She is wearing a skirt (probably long) which I will color light purple. She can be wearing a white long-sleeve shirt. I imagined her with long gray hair and brown eyes. -The father can be wearing a dark blue robe (I'm not sure what is mentioned in the text). He can have short gray hair and brown eyes. -yellow dress for the sister, she also has her hair back in a low pony tail
Tess' phone number (for emergencies) - 405.642.0340 The Yahoo account where you can send your pages and see a drawing of the room - GraphicNovelMetamorphosis@yahoo.com Username: GraphicNovelMetamorphosis Password: Crappyart
And if you imagine that the second picture has a desk and bureau on the wall opposite the bed, it works well for layout purposes as well. Who has already drawn their section? And how have you guys done it?
I am against the handwritten captions. I would like to do mine on the computer. That way, if I have less stuff that I can mess up (I really do not want to restart the whole thing). Also, not all of the details Desiree, Elissa, and I mentioned have to be included in the drawing. Some people just do not have the artistic ability to draw these things (like me). However, the basics should definitely be there.
Also, I changed my drawing a little bit. Everything is exactly where it was, but I added a panel in the bottom left corner (not including the caption) that depicts what Gregor is seeing. The bed is not seen in my drawing because of this, but everything else is the same.
SCAN AND SEND YOUR DRAWINGS TO: graphicnovelmetamorphosis@yahoo.com
I'm using Alex's caption style, and this picture as reference for the style of the furniture, and positioning of the bed/coffee table and bedside alarm clock, also, let's use the coffee table as his table, and have the fabric samples be green, gray and purple, purple being nearest the settee and green closest to the alarm clock.
HURRAY! I've sent a sketch of my page to graphicnovelmetamorphosis@yahoo.com, so if you want to log on, use the password Crappyart, also, please post ideas/comments/crit, sorry if it's hard to see, it's just a pencil sketch
though by one i'm going to start inking, so if something is wrong, please tell me soon
JAZ: I though it is strange for Gregor to have a four poster bed because he does not have the most luxurious life. I imagined him with very simple furniture, but if you have already gotten far on your picture, I am willing to do it. Also, I will use Alex's room design to keep everything uniform.
QUESTION: Because Alex is typing his captions, does that mean we are all going to? Does that mean we will glue the text onto our pictures? Can we still do though/speech bubbles, or are we restricted to quoting in the caption box?
CHAPTER I Scene I--Ari F Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jaz Scene 4--Feruza Scene 5--Desiree Scene 6--Jordyn Scene 7--Reid Scene 8--Aaron possibly? Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II Scene 1-- Scene 2-- Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7-- Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9-- Scene 10-- Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III Scene 1--Dan Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jeffrey Scene 4-- Scene 5-- Scene 6--Katie Scene 7--Althea Scene 8--Rob Scene 9--Benji Scene 10--Irvin Scene 11--Sasha Scene 12--Kayleigh
IF YOU DO NOT CLAIM A SCENE BY TWO P.M. I AM ASSIGNING THEM.
Also, is someone calling me and blocking their number? I keep getting anonymous calls... and the voicemails are just random noise...normally I would assume some prank or something but since I just gave my number out...
Desiree: Yes, speech bubbles are A-okay. Also, about the bed, on page 1643 he slams into the lower bedpost, and even though it is pretty ambiguous, I think a four poster will fit.
Okay, we have a problem. people who are doing chapter III have completely signed up, which is AMAZING, good job, but we still have 3 scenes that are not being drawn! And we have one extra person on Chapter I, so out of the three that still need a scene (Julia, Alex L, and Ari H-C) would one of you like to switch over? Please? Or two, since Aaron has offered to draw two... and we need as many people as possible moving to Chapters II and III.
Also, beyond that, we need people to start offering to draw multiple scenes. Chapter two has 5 scenes still to be claimed. I'll take 1 and 2 but that still leaves three. Please step up people!
And can anyone else call Ari H-C and tell him about the Jordyn thing? I've been trying to reach him but so far nothing, so I'm getting worried.
I've given the cleaning woman (number 2) curly, shoulder length brown hair, brown eyes, an overcoat, and a bowler-type hat with an ostrich feather in it (textual evidence).
CHAPTER I Scene I--Ari F Scene 2--Alex L Scene 3--Jaz Scene 4--Feruza Scene 5--Desiree Scene 6--Jordyn Scene 7--Reid Scene 8--Aaron Scene 9--Aaron
CHAPTER II Scene 1--Tess Scene 2--Tess Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7--Ran Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9-- Scene 10-- Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III Scene 1--Dan Scene 2-- Scene 3--Jeffrey Scene 4-- Scene 5-- Scene 6--Katie Scene 7--Althea Scene 8--Rob Scene 9--Benji Scene 10--Irvin Scene 11--Sasha Scene 12--Kayleigh
Okay, this means Ari and Julia need to move to Chapter III (or two). I've talked to Julia and she's cool with it, she's out of her house right now but will pick one as soon as she gets home.
I'm trying to get ahold of Marissa, but neither phone is picking up, so I will keep trying. In the mean time, can anyone who has a small scene volunteer to take either 9 or 10 in chapter II, so in case I do no get ahold of Marissa until late we're not forcing her to do two big scenes back to back? If no one else can, I can do one of them...
Thanks ari! I'm sorry you got messed up by all that. Okay, I can do chapter 2 scene 2 and scene 10, leaving marissa scene nine.
here is the new scene/chapter list for chapter II CHAPTER II Scene 1--Ari H-C Scene 2--Tess Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7--Ran Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9-- Scene 10--Tess (?)-> unless Marissa wants it Scene 11--Sidney
okay, nevermind. good thing I really do not care... NEW chapter list CHAPTER II Scene 1--Tess Scene 2--Ari-H-C Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7--Ran Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9--MARISSA--OFFICIALLY ASSIGNED. Scene 10--Ari H-C Scene 11--Sidney
JAZ - i love your sketch and since it comes right before the scene i am doing, ill try my best to uniform what you have so far. and i somewhat agreed with Desiree with the bed being too luxurious for Gregor but not anymore i guess..
TESS - i guess i can claim SCENE 2 of CHAP 1. if it already taken (whoever they are, i dont see a name in the lists so far) i will then move to chap 2/3 depending on what you have by 2 pm today. k?
EVERYONE - i had a sketch already done yesterday but more and more posts were posted on here that i had to change some things in my sketch so i will send that in later today, hopefully along with the new scene i will get assigned after Tess responds...
Chapter three people! I need you to step up and offer to take more than one scene. Julia is joining you, but making her take three scenes is ridiculous and unfair. If no one else is willing to, I can take on scene 2. That leaves 4 and 5. Julia, are you okay with doing both of those?
TESS - im not sure who still needs to sign up that hasnt already but are there still people in our class who have not said a word to you about wanting to do a scene that is not taken already in the lists so far? if chapter three people do not respond after some time today, i will offer to take up a scene.
ohhh wait i figured out what you meant ari. Just kidding. let me update it. i thought you meant scenes 2 and 10 of chap 2..
For the captions or speech bubbles thing....if the person in the picture is speaking, it should be a speech bubble. If it is action that needs to be explained, it is a caption. Make sense?
FINAL CHAPTER LIST: CHAPTER I Scene I--Ari F Scene 2--Alex L Scene 3--Jaz Scene 4--Feruza Scene 5--Desiree Scene 6--Jordyn Scene 7--Reid Scene 8--Aaron Scene 9--Aaron
CHAPTER II Scene 1--Tess Scene 2--Tess Scene 3--Elissa Scene 4--Nate Scene 5--Alex G Scene 6--Alejandra Scene 7--Ran Scene 8--Aliyah Scene 9--MARISSA Scene 10--Ari H-C Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III Scene 1--Dan Scene 2--Tess Scene 3--Jeffrey Scene 4--Desiree Scene 5--JULIA Scene 6--Katie Scene 7--Althea Scene 8--Rob Scene 9--Benji Scene 10--Irvin Scene 11--Sasha Scene 12--Kayleigh
Another important thing: draw only on the front of pages! Does everyone agree with this?
And here is the overall color scheme for characters: Gregor: brown Sister(Grete): Yellow Mother Father: Blue Manager: Gray
What about the charwoman/the first maid/the renters? Who is drawing them and what colors are they?
Also, note that your scene can take up more than one page, and i think some big scenes could have one page of just one picture. Like the first scene, etc. For example, the scene where Gregor is looking wistfully out the window (scene seven, chapter one) could be a very beautiful moment, with just one page full of a giant bug leaning on a chair looking at the stars. (Reid is drawing that...what do you think, Reid?) It could create an interesting way to emphasize the dehumanization of Gregor across the book, by highlighting different moments. Comments? Thoughts?
I'm using printer paper. And what color is the mom? you list her name, but didn't give a color.
off topic... the other classes must either be really unorganized or have gotten a ton done in class, because they have like an average of 30 comments, unlike our almost 200.
That is because the mother was never totally decided...it was originally stated she should be blue, but the father is clearly stated to be blue most of the time in the book, so red for her? Agreed?
wait, I thought my scene was the one where his family gets freaked out when they first see him, but I could try to draw him looking out the window...I'm not sure I'll be able to make it that beautiful but I'll try. Also, for the dialogue, should we use direct quotes from the text or just make it up to convey what's going on?
I have sent Chapter I scene 5 to GraphicNovelMetamorphosis in case anyone wants to view it. The other scene will have to wait because this has taken me all day and I am sick of drawing.
HEY ok so soooooo sorry this has taken me so long to get to, i've been out of the house. and all these comments took forever to read through! THANKS tess and desiree and feruza and althea and jaz for helping standardize things. everything looks like it's working out great!!
couple of things: -desiree empty space is fine -REMEMBER if you're doing your scence on more than one page it needs to take up full pages, don't leave large ammounts of white space at the end of the page -tess: i really like your idea about the darker to lighter thing, and an easy way to do that would be with shading on the margins, but that would have to be something that you did (i can help!) when binding it. (if this doesn't make sence i'll talk to you more about this later) -so everyone go with purple skirt, white shirt, and gray hair for the mom! -i don't have a scanner, so i guess you guys will just have to be surprised by my drawing on monday! but don't worry, i will follow all guidelines.
QUESTION: was the length of the sisters dress ever established? how has it been drawn?
I did not leave large white spaces at the bottom, just 1`` margins on all sides. can we keep the picture above the bureau because i included it in a sketch, but i made it unclear what the picture is of, so someone else can decide if they need to.
Unfortunately, I am almost finished with my final copy, so I am going to have a hard time making the captions handwritten because I printed out the caption before I drew it. However, because I have a scanner, I can just scan my picture into the outline that I made before and just hope it looks good. I can then proceed to write in the caption. Also, I already have the picture with the sail boat because it said that his room had things on the walls before the mother and sister started moving things. I just decided to make a random decoration. I hope that everyone else uses it also.
QUESTION (I have not even been using my own format): Do we have to outline our drawings in black ink. That will take forever! I'll do it, but I'd rather not...
Also, do not put your name on the page that you drew. I will make a table of contents if everyone would like that. It will not be fancy, but perhaps I will add some razzle-dazzle to it (NH). Personally, I am going to hide my name somewhere in the art, but that's kinda cliche, so I would not expect everyone to do it.
Dang it! I was going to look up where it said that the picture of the lady was over the bureau and then correct you guys, but I was wrong (I was almost positive too). EVERYBODY, MAKE SURE THE PICTURE OF THE LADY IS OVER THE TABLE AND NOT OVER THE BUREAU.
QUESTION: Where is the table positioned? I have it far away from the bed, but Jaz has it next to his bed. It did not say anything about the positioning of the table. Also, Jaz has the alarm clock on the table next to his bed. In the text it said that the alarm clock was "ticking away by the chest of drawers." This is why I put it on the desk, which is next to the chest of drawers.
P.S. Sorry for making the password Crappyart. I wanted to emphasize how my art was not very good, but now it seems that I am calling everybody else's art crappy. I made the account before I thought of having everyone else put there art on it as well, sorry about that...
answers: yes, you have to outline in black ink. Sorry I know that takes time, but it will make everything look cleaner and more defined. I can copy the table of contents into the cover, so don't worry about doing that Alex. It will be easier this way...
To Aaron: Yeah, sorry for that, it just sort of fell out that way because you said you could, and then we didn't have enough people, and so...yeah. sorry. I hope that's not too much work.
ALIYAH: Can you help Marissa? She found out so late that she was drawing scene 9, and it's a big scene, and since scene 8 is very short, could we extend it a bit?
Note to everyone: Please check this regularly. Don't check it, leave a comment, and drop off. Comment and wait to see what people say. Check back before doing anything drastic. I'm worried about all the people who have only posted once, because I think that maybe we have a couple people who have been on here a ton and a couple who haven't been on at all, and half of us are going to be uniform and the rest not. So PLEASE check back regularly, find out what details you need, check in with the people who have scenes immediately on either side of yours, and make sure your drawings have the same characteristics we've been working out on here. Thanks to everyone who has contributed! Good luck finishing tonight!
Muahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mysterious Blogger!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Stupid sophmores, slaving away while Mr. Sharp whips you with his moustache whips! Fools! All of you! I could make a really long post and make every one of you scroll through it every time you look at this blog, but I am not that big of a jerk. Just a mysterious blogger who tells stupid people that they are stupid. Stupid!
Wow, you guys have a lot more blogging than the other classes. While you are more whipped by Mr. Sharp's moustache, you are also better people because you blog so much. For blogging is the best thing in the world! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!!!
My sources tell me that a certain blogger here has his own blog named after Tale of Genji. While I will not single that student out and name him, I will say that I appreciate this person's satirical blog. Most of the time, that is. I respect that student because blogging is the best thing in the world! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
MYSTERIOUS BLOGGER - seriously... whoever you are... whatever.
ANYWAYS GUYS i sent in my drawings to the email. CHECK AND POST ANYTHING ABOUT EM ON HERE! i will not color yet nor outline! i will see what you guys say about it because im not feeling all that good about it just yet... THANX!
EVERYONE CHECK THE EMAIL AND THIS BLOG PLACE AS FREQUENTLY AS YOU CAN... like Tess said..dont just check and close...
I need a reference picture of the sofa, the cloth samples, and the picture of the lady with the boa and the fur. Also, I need to know if the carpet has to be drawn, because I do not know how one goes about drawing a carpet. What is the color of the sofa, desk, table, and bureau. Please respond in man-colors, not anything like salmon, lavender, mauve etc. I want red, blue, yellow and other well known colores. I know I could just look it up online but, come on. Am I really gonna have a lavender colored pencil? Sorry if I sound mean, but I don't understand all of these colors. Sorry artsy people.
I hope my new drawing is satisfactory, because I have been trying to get the details correct but every time I try to draw them I mess up...
It is so stupid that we have to outline it in pen! I mean to sound angry! Grrrrrr! I am going to notice something after I have already outlined it in pen. I bet anyone 100 dollars that this is going to happen. Now, I have no wiggle room. Pen ink is indelible, as opposed to pencil, which cannot endure life's (inanimateness's?) many vicissitudes (you know, the flotsam and jetsam of inanimateness). But seriously! Why in pen? Not only will I mess up for sure, but I can't change anything. I really don't like that idea!
I apologize to whatever unnamed person writes the Tale of Genji blog. My previous comment made it seem like you were the Mysterious Blogger. Obviously not. Nobody can blog as well as the Mysterious Blogger! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
The Mysterious Blogger is serious. The Mysterious Blogger would never try to make it seem like some undeserving person is getting the credit for his blog. Additionally, he would never try to get anyone else in trouble. I you must know, my sources tell me that the Mysterious Blogger is not even in one of the four classes doing this petty assignment. He is stirring up a bit of trouble and has too much time on his hands. With this time, though, he is making masterful blogs. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
That was meant to say, "If you must know" not "I you must know. Obviously, this was a computer error, as the Mysterious Blogger's blogs are flawless. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
(Agh, I'm not in fifth period, but, rather, seventh, and I would like to know if we could have one of these set up, as well. Sorry to interrupt! I can delete this, if necessary.)
ReplyDeletegreat Bella... just great... :)
ReplyDeleteWow, we are a devoted bunch aren't we? Anyone else finished the novel yet?
ReplyDeleteOkay hey everybody...
ReplyDeleteSo as your group co-leader I think I should probably make some effort to keep people on task and remind you what needs to be done over the weekend...so yeah...read the novel. It's like, 50 pages or something. Not even, so no excuses, seriously. It is not hard to read.
Also please be noting pages you would want to draw. Everyone needs to bring at least three pages they want to draw so we can discuss it and pick who will be drawing what.
And yeah I know you all remember this and have probably done it already, but i know that I frequently forget stuff like this so I thought a small reminder might be helpful...
Thanks everybody,
Tess
So, to start the divy-ing of the scenes, I will take whatever is left over. I have read the story and do not care what I get. I will take the scraps that people dislike.
ReplyDeleteMr. Sharp said somthing about additional articles. Does anyone know where they are?
ReplyDeleteHere is the list of who is working on what chapter:
ReplyDeleteONE:
Ari F.
Jaz
Alex L.
Ari H-C
Reid
Aaron
Jordyn
Feruza
Julia**
Desiree
TWO:
Aliyah
Nate
Marissa
Sidney
Ran
Alejandra
Alex G.
Elissa
Tess**
THREE:
Katie
Dan
Kayleigh
Benji
Irvin
Jeffrey
Althea
Rob
Sasha**
Asterisks indicate people who will be badgering everyone else and making sure they stay on task. Basically, we'll be annoying all of you to make sure this gets done.
I've made a list of scenes by going through the book and marking out what seems to divide it. We can discuss this more in class.
-Tess
thanks tess.
ReplyDeleteand desiree, the additional articles are the three readings we got in class on monday after finishing the in-class essay. if you haven't gotten those, then you should stop by sharp's and get them, the sub said we were going to discuss them next period (~thurs). i hope that's what you were talking about ^^;
-feruza
I claim the part where the the company guy runs away.
ReplyDeleteis anyone going to post the scenes to assign to everybody?
ReplyDeletei get ceiling scene lol
ReplyDeletetess is supposed to
ReplyDeleteHow did Julia get picked to "badger" everyone? I don't remember voting on that. I don't appreciate all this cronyism.
ReplyDeleteAlso, what are the guidelines in terms of how and what we draw? I don't want to work on something only to find out its way out of place. Personally, I think The Metamorphos is very dreamlike, I mean, waking up as a bug and not freaking out, as if it is nothing but an annoying pest, makes it seem like having variety among setting, coloring, and overall style wouldn't be too big an issue. I think to have drastic changes across each person's panel, yet carrying on with the story as if these changes are perfectly normal or non-existent fits right in with Gregor's character, so it would be appropriate for the graphic novel, as long as we maintained a clear story line so the reader would know what was going on. Everyone draws somewhat differently, so some variety is inevitable- we might as well embrace it.
Also, dibs on the scene where his family first sees him as a bug.
I want either the wake up or him trying to open the door.
ReplyDeleteSorry this is so late! I feel terrible, but the chemistry webassign + lacrosse practice made it difficult. Sorry!
ReplyDeleteSCENES: Chapter I
1)"As Gregor Samsa awoke..." to "For the time being, however, I must get up because my train leaves at five."
2) "And he looked at the alarm clock ticking on the bureau" to "He had no doubt that the change in his voice was nothing more than the presentiment of a severe cold, an ailment common among traveling salesmen"
3) "The coverlet was easy to throw off..." to "Despite his predicament, he could not supress a smile at these thoughts"
4) "He was already out so far that he could barely keep his balance..." to
"The room on the left fell into uncomfortable silence, the sister began sobbing in the room to the right"
5) "Why did the sister not join the others?" to "In this way he also managed to gain control of himself and fell silent, as he could now listen to the head clerk"
6) "'Did you understand even a word?'" to "'So I didn't need the locksmith after all,' and pressed his head against the handle in order to completely open the door"
7) Since he had to pull the door open in this way..." to "The door to the foyer was open, and since the apartment door was also open, one could see out to the landing and the top of the stairs leading down"
8) "'Well now,' said Gregor..." to "She bent her head down as if to see Gregor better but instead ran contradictorily and madly backward and, having forgotten that the laden table stood behind her, sat down on it thoughtlessly and hastily, seemingly oblivious to the large overturned coffee pot next to her from which coffee was pouring in a steady stream onto the carpet"
9) "'Mother, Mother,' Gregor said softly..." to "The door was slammed shut with the stick, then all was still."
Chapter II--I know it has like, 12 scenes, but Group 2 has the most people, and the chapter was getting too long. some people would have been drawing five or so pages (exaggeration, yes, but not by much) for their scenes, so it seemed more far to break them up a bit and give variety to those people who want it and are willing to take on more.
1) "It was twilight..." to "In fact, it was almost in revulsion that he turned away from the bowl and crawled back in the middle of the room."
2) "In the living room, as Gregor could..." to "For now he must lie low and try, through patience and the greatest consideration, to help his family bear the inconvenience he was bound to cause them in his present condition"
3) "So early in the morning that it was almost still night..." to "Hardly had she turned her back when Gregor came out from under the sofa, stretched, and puffed himself out."
4) "Gregor was fed twice daily..." to "She was tearfully thankful for the dismissal, as if it were the greatest service they had ever conferred upon her, and with no prompting swore a dreadful oath never to breathe to anyone a word of what had happened"
5) "Now the sister also had to cook..." to "'What's he up to now?' the father said after a while, obviously turned toward the door, and only then did the interrupted conversation resume."
6) "Gregor was now very thoroughly informed..." to "Gregor let go of the door and threw himself onto the cool leather sofa nearby, he felt so flushed with shame and grief."
7) "He often lay there through the whole night..." to "...and Gregor imagined he caught a grateful look once when he cautiously raised the sheet a little with his head to see how the sister was taking the new arrangement"
8) "During the first two weeks..." to "...and she got it into her head to allow Gregor the widest crawling space possible by the removal of the furniture that hindered him, namely the bureaus and the desk"
9-this is really long, might split) "She was not, however, able to do this alone..." to "...because from sheer exhaustion they were struggling in silence and only the heavy shuffling of their feet could be heard"
10) "And so he broke out..." to "...he began to crawl, to crawl al over, over everything, walls, furniture, ceiling, and finally fell in despair, when the whole room was spinning, onto the middle of the large table."
11) "A little while passed, Gregor still lay..." to "and with her arms flung around his neck, she begged the father to spare Gregor's life."
Chapter III
1) "Gregor's serious injury, from which he suffered..." to "'How long you're sewing again today!' and instantly fell back aslepp while mother and sister exchanged a tired smile"
2) "Out of some absurd obstinacy..." to "'Go shut that door, Grete,' and Gregor was in darkness again while next door the women mingled their tears or stared dry-eyed at the table"
3) "Gregor spent the days and nights almost...." to "...and Gregor hissed furiously because no one had thought to close his door and spare him this racket and spectacle"
4) "But even if the sister..." to "...Gregor waded through the junk pile and set it in motion, at first out of necessity because there was no other free space to crawl but later with increasing pleasure, though after these forays he lay still for hours, achingly tired and miserable"
5-this is very long, lots of action) "Since the boarders sometimes..." to "Thereupon he grabbed the door handle and banged shut the door."
6) The father staggered and groped for his chair..." to "'But instead this creature persecutes us and drives out the boarders; it obviously wants to take over the whole apartment and throw us out into the gutter.'"
7) "'Just look, Father!', she suddenly screamed, 'he's at it again!'" to "'Finally!' She cried to the parents as she turned the key in the lock"
8)"'What now?' Gregor wondered..." to "'Come and look at this, it's croaked; it's lying there, dead as a doornail!'"
9) "Herr and Frau Samsa sat up..." to "They filed into the now fully lit room and circled around Gregor's corpse, with their hands in the pockets of their rather shabby coats"
10) "Just then the bedroom door opened..." to "Herr Samsa and the women quit the banister and, as if relieved, returned to the apartment"
11) "They decided to spend..." to "The women promptly obeyed him, carressed him, and hurriedly finished their letters."
12) "Then all three left the apartment together..." to "And it was like a confirmation of their new dreams and good intentions that at their journey's end their daughter jumped to her feet and stretched her young body."
Okay, so before anyone says anything: I know I did not adhere the the nine scene plan. However, after reading the book about seven times in an attempt to find a way to make it only seven scenes, I realized this was absurd, a number we picked to match the number of people, that did not work with the book. As is, there are some ridiculously long scenes that probably need to be split, and had I put only nine for every single chapter it would have been insane.
So we'll see what gets claimed and go from there as far as scenes go.
Reid, Julia was "picked" because she was very enthusiastic and bothered me outside of class about helping out and in fact did help me out with some tasks. Had anyone else shown that degree of enthusiasm I would have gladly given them the role, but as it was Julia was the loudest and most excited and overly helpful, therefore she gets to help out.
So far, here is what has been claimed:
Aaron-- Chapter I, scene 8 (or scene 9, your pick)
Aliyah--Chapter II, scene 8
Reid--Chapter I, scene 7
Ari F.--Chapter I, scene 1 (if someone else wants scene 1 really bad, i'll give you scene 6, and vice versa)
ALSO Reid I love your ideas! Sorry I looked at you so blankly in class when you said that, my brain was on overdrive. But that is a very good idea. It will add a sort of supernatural quality to the plain atmosphere of the novel, which fits Kafka's peculiar style exactly. If people can post their ideas for how to carry out Reid's plan on here first so we can make sure we're all on the same page that would be lovely!
Also I had an idea I want to throw out there: what about a color scheme that started out as grays and browns and grew slowly lighter? Gregor's room should always be gray and black and brown and get darker, but everything else should get brighter colors so we get a visual representation of the changing mood of the book.
Here are the req's we talked about in class:
-1 inch margin on ALL SIDES.
-brown bug, two antennae, six legs
-Scarab/dung beetle
-handwritten captions and dialogue, block all-caps
-black outline of drawings
-colored pencil (?) did we agree on this? I cannot remember if we decided that was weird or good. Does anyone?
Also, perspective/point-of-view. I believe it should be from Gregor's perspective. Yes, no? If not, why?
ALL DRAWINGS DUE MONDAY! If we don't get them monday, they're probably gonna be stapled into the book, which will look terrible. I know that as LASA kids you guys are obviously very driven (when you want to be). Please be driven for this! Come on, we gotta prove that all that Gifted and Talented training Mr Sharp did actually had an effect...
Once again, I am sorry this is late.
Please feel free to give all suggestions on this board. Obviously Reid had a great idea, and thank god he spoke up, so follow his lead please!
Thanks everybody,
Tess
I'm gonna vote no on the Gregor's perspective, simply because the novel is written in third person and many of the scenes will lose dramatic effect as well as easily draw-ability with everything coming from the perspective of Gregor. That's not to say that it can't be used in a more artistic way - the first scene especially would be very good with this technique in my opinion, but I'm sure there are others - but for the majority of the novel a more narrative stance is taken.
ReplyDeleteDIBS ON #11 on chap 2
ReplyDeletewhere the dad throws the apples
Somebody put what happens in each scene. I am getting annoyed having to look online at where each piece of text begins and ends. Wait... Maybe I should. Nah, the group leaders should do that because they picked out each scene. It would have been much easier if they told us what happens in each mini-scene. Gosh!
ReplyDeletePerhaps that was not a well put statement... However, the fact remains that Tess needs to write what happens in each of the twelve mini-scenes in scene 2 so that we can decide which parts we want to do. I don't wanna re-read it!
ReplyDeleteI'll take chapter 3, scene 3
ReplyDeleteSo we are doing this in colored pencils on 8.5 by 11 computer paper?
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ReplyDeleteOops.... Didn't mean to delete that. Here's the original message:
ReplyDeleteSorry I was being a whiner earlier. It isn't really that hard to find whichever part one wants. So...
I CALL SCENE 5 IN CHAPTER II! I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING IT, OR YOU'LL PAY FOR IT!!!!
...sorry, I don't know what came over me. I forgot to use my indoor voice. Won't happen again... But seriously, scene 5!
thanks a lot tess. =] I CLAIM SCENE 4 CHAPTER 1!!
ReplyDeleteso comments/concerns...
I agree with Reid and Sasha, and yes we did agree with the black outline and pencil coloring and such. I agree that it should not be in Gregor's perspective because the book obviously isnt...
my question is, we are allowed to have more than one page for our scenes right?? and if we do end up having for example 2 pages, should we continue our scene on the back of page 1 or start off fresh on a new paper? i think starting on a new paper would make the comic more neat (black outline might run through the paper....). what do yall think??...
and the dialogues,we are just writing out the important dialogues for each character right?
hm... so did we as a class decide on the proportions of Gregor compared with a normal human (say his manager or sister)?? we said his width was around 3/4 feet-ish but i dont remember having a final vote on his overall size. if we did, can someone post that on here? that would be helpful.
oh and tess/sasha, this might not be a big issue, but are you guys going to number the pages when you have it all together? or should we put those in before monday? and who is making the cover...??
-Feruza A
i want the very first scene.
ReplyDeleteso that's what i'm gonna do
I claim chapter 1 scene 3 (where Gregor first tries to get out of bed)
ReplyDeletealso, what are we doing as far as the cover is concerned? Any ideas? (If no one else claims it, I'd like to draw it)
ReplyDeletealso, I just realized; what about standard margins between panels? Let's just do 1/4 of an inch to keep it simple
ReplyDelete(gasp, a semicolon!)
Tess is binding the book, and Jaz, I'm sure there would be no problem with you drawing a cover. Jeffrey - Yes. Feruza, there is no limit on the pages that you can draw, but I would like to go ahead and say that you should probably make each extra page you draw another physical sheet of paper for continuity purposes - those who are only doing one page will have only the front part of that page with illustration on it.
ReplyDeleteDon't number the pages, too, that'll happen when we see who draws what for how many pages.
I'll take chapter three, scene eleven. And just to compile a list of the scenes already taken again -
ReplyDeleteAaron-- Chapter I, scene 8 (or scene 9, your pick)
Aliyah--Chapter II, scene 8
Reid--Chapter I, scene 7
Ari F.--Chapter I, scene 1
Sydney -- Chapter II, scene 11
Jeffrey -- Chapter III, scene 3
Feruza -- Chapter I, scene 4
Jaz -- Chapter I, scene 3
Sasha -- Chapter III, scene eleven
I want Chapter III scene 8
ReplyDeleteDan would like to do Chapter III Scene 1
ReplyDeleteBenji would like to do Chapter III Scene 9
wait wait wait, Ari I and Ari II! You two have to put your last names. Please.
ReplyDeleteDo people want me to summarize what happens in each mini scene or is it okay as is?
The size we agreed on was 3-4 feet wide and 6 feet tall, i believe? I may be wrong, but that sounds about right...
and update on taken scenes:
ReplyDeleteCHAPTER I
Scene I--Ari (which one?)
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jaz
Scene 4--Feruza
Scene 5--
Scene 6--
Scene 7--Reid
Scene 8--Aaron possibly?
Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--
Scene 2--
Scene 3--
Scene 4--
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--
Scene 7--
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--
Scene 10--
Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III
Scene 1--Dan
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jeffrey
Scene 4--
Scene 5--
Scene 6--
Scene 7--
Scene 8--Rob
Scene 9--Benji
Scene 10--
Scene 11--Sasha
Scene 12--
I call SCENE 12 of Chapter III... please and thank you...
ReplyDeleteIma take Chapter III Scene 10 if that's okay with everyone.
ReplyDeleteI'll do Chapter III scene 6.
ReplyDeleteOKAY
good night
<3 KATIE
Monse (Alejandra) calls dibs on scene 6 part chapter two.
ReplyDeleteill take chapter 2 scene 4, and my second choice will be chapter 2 scene 10, if we end up having to do two...
ReplyDeleteand also i agree with reid, i dont much care for julia as our leader, in fact, even though i am part of scene 2, i vote me as leader of scene 1, nay leader of the entire project,
meh, w/e too lazy
I was the one who called scene 1 first (this is H-C). But since Ari F. thinks he's doing it, and may not check the blog again, I'll do I.6.
ReplyDeleteAnd for size, tess, I think you mean 3-4 feet wide, 6 feet long, and only about 1 foot tall (he has to fit under the settee)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ari on the size. We should set that as a standard. Also, did we decide that there would be no bubble dialogue? I was planning to put all of the dialogue in the caption below by quoting whoever said it. example (not real): Gregor listened as his mother said, "Gross!" and proceeded to scurry off under the couch.
ReplyDeleteWould this go along with the rest of the class's captions, or am I the only one planning to do it?
Hey can i claim Chapter 1 scene 6?
ReplyDeleteOh, and did we decide on horizontal or vertical pages?
ReplyDeleteJordyn - we decided on portrait (vertical) pages.
ReplyDeleteand adding onto Alex's question, i dont think it really matters on what kind of bubble we use right? if we end up having the characters thinking, wouldnt it be better to use bubble-dialogue?? just a thought...
and for those who are doing scenes with Gregor's manager (and his sister...), did we decide on his looks? i was thinking maybe dark/navy suit, square rimmed glasses, and somewhat of a professional look. also tall/slim guy...
Nate, i dont think it really matters all that much whos leader in which group; as long as we pull this off as a class, then its all good.
both Ari's, please indicate which one you are XD so confusing guys. ...
Hopefully, nobody has started yet, because I think we should have a standard for what is in Gregor's room. From the text, I have procured several details about the furniture in Gregor's room. However, I have no idea how it is arranged, or where the door (or doors) is (are). That part was not clear. This refers to the state of his room before the rearrangement. The state of his room afterwords is addressed later. What I have so far is as follows:
ReplyDelete-Obviously the sofa
-A Bureau/Chest of Drawers with tools in it
-Some sort of decorations on the walls, including the picture of the lady which is on top of the large table mentioned below
-Flowered wallpaper*
-His writing desk
-A large table
-A window looking out to the street
-The door to his room is a double door with a small crack between the two side doors.
*denotes insignificant details
NOTE: These things only apply before they move Gregor's furniture around. When they moved it, they took out a few pieces of furniture (including the chest of drawers and the writing desk but not the sofa) and rendered the walls devoid of all decorations (except the painting and perhaps one other thing).
NOTE #2: Depending on the angle you draw Gregor's room from, you may not (and probably will not) have all of these things.
QUESTION: Should we include Gregor's bed? Obviously, he woke up on it, so it must be there. It seems that Gregor's room is already packed full of furniture, but that is quite an important piece of furniture (although only mentioned only at the beginning of the book).
Tell me if I forgot any of the details. Anyone with more should post them immediately. Do not start drawing until you are sure of what needs to be in your particular scene.
I hate that we are doing these pictures portrait. It makes no sense whatsoever. It is easier to draw a room landscape because if one draws it portrait he/she has to draw it from an unnatural angle.
ReplyDeleteAlso, anybody who has already started drawing, please tell everybody just so that we can keep tabs on the details in whatever you are drawing and your formatting. Thanks.
His room has a carpet floor, but, depending on the meaning of the word "carpet" in the early 20th century, it may be referring to a rug or partial covering of the floor.
ReplyDeletewell depending on which scene each person does and from whichever angle they draw, they might not have all the furniture and details of Gregor's room included in their drawings... and yea i think people should post anything else pertaining to these kinds of details asap.
ReplyDelete...(hm seems like not many people are posting so far, except for the same people whove been posting..)
another thing to add to any scene in chapter one would be Gregor's clock. not a significant item i know. i drew mine in a circle shape with its base being a long rectangle. its not final though.
i dont remember whose idea this was (tess'?)but they mentioned a color scheme for the mood that progress from scene one to the last scene. ..? should we vote on that on here? i really like this idea because it is an important aspect of the story (the way the family grows happier as Gregor's days come to an end).
The bed should be included for sure...
ReplyDeleteIt may be too late now, but the text clearly said that he had a distinct head that he "tilted sideways." I don't think a scarab can do that. Maybe I should just let it go...
ReplyDeleteI have already started drawing, at the moment though i am still holding back until we get everyone else's feedback and such.
ReplyDeleteso my scene is 4 from chapter 1, basically what happens here is Gregor falls down from the bed, office manager enters house and hears Gregor falling. They demand him open the door. His sister is not joined in with the family and shes in the next door room, crying.
what i have so far on my paper is a clock and the office manager entering through the door. i believe my scenes will not require many details of the door, except maybe when samsa falls. im just doing each part of the scene depending on how important they are. (important ones = somewhat unproportionally larger than others)
i just thought of this..in what order, and from where, are we drawing from? the right hand corner and go across and start again from the bottom? or from the left hand corner?
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the portrait idea is good because it allows us more room and it shows, compared to the landscape, a progress of one part of the scene to the other better than drawing it horizontally. thats just my opinion on this.
ReplyDeleteThere are two doors in his room. One is from the living room, and the other is from the hall. This is just from Kafka writing, "living room door," and "door from the hall into his room." Also, it says later that he "scurried right away to the appropriate door."
ReplyDeleteI feel like I'm writing an essay, quoting all of these things...
I think that the portrait format will work better for some scenes, than for others. Really, it is just whichever works best for the most scenes. If most people voted for portrait, than I guess they are fine with it for the scene they are doing. It kinda sucks for my scene, but if it works better for everybody else, what can I say...
ReplyDeleteWhen we color do we have to use colored pencils? I would prefer to use Markers but...i can use pencils if i have to.
ReplyDeleteOk guys, a couple of things: 1) Even though I like the idea of the color shift I honestly think its a disaster waiting to happen. Hardly anyone is keeping up with all of these posts and to get something like that to look purposeful and artistic it would take alot more communication than we have right now. 2) It doesnt really matter if the bug looks and functions EXACTLY like a scarab 3) I was thinking about the color scheme, has anyone started coloring yet? I know we agreed that gregor would be brown, which is fine, but I was thinking maybe the other characters could have some defining color too, to help to keep things consistent despite our different interpretations and drawing styles? Maybe red for the father because of his mostly negative attitude towards gregor, blue for the mother, yellow for the sister? Iono, just an idea, if we can manage to keep a color scheme strait then we dont have to worry as much about consistency in the depictions.
ReplyDeleteAlso, if we had some agreed upon color themes it wouldnt matter as much if people used markers or pencils or w.e.
ReplyDeleteI will take chapter II scene 3
ReplyDeleteThanks
I would like to do chapter 1 scene 5. This is the part where the manager tells Gregor to come to work and expresses his complaints against him. Gregor then pushes himself upright against the chest of doors.
ReplyDeleteHere are some textual details in addition to those Alex mentioned:
-4 walls
-Table has fabric samples on it (those including the table in their scene should communicate to determine the arrangement, colors and patterns, and number of fabric samples)
-Picutre of woman with fur boa and hat above the table (Alex said it was on the table, but it is actually hanging above it). The picture is from a glossy magazine and has a gilt frame. The woman is sitting upright and raising a heavy fur muff that engulfs her forearm. Again, those including this in their scene should coordinate the details such as hair color and dress of the woman.
-The weather outside the window is overcast and foggy.
-Gregor has a spot on his belly with white dots.
-There is a rug behind Gregor's bed which he crasehs onto, but I'm not sure if it is another rug in addtion to the carpeted flooring or if it is the carpeted flooring. I will assume it is a different rug.
-The manager has patent leather boots.
-First the alarm clock reads 6:30. Then it hits 6:45 and 7:00 depending on your scene.
I have drawn a rough skect of the room, and since I cannot post it I will describe it. Feel free to comment or make any suggestions, especially if you have already started drawing and have done something different (I have not started drawing yet). I have also made color suggestions for the sake of uniformity, but those are open to change as well.
Gregor's room is rectangular with the double doors roughly in the the middle (slightly to the left) of one of the long sides of the rectangle. Across the room on the other long side is the window just right of the top left corner if you look at the room from an aeiral view. Gregor's bed is in the top right corner, and there is a small 3.5 x 2 feet rug at the end of it. The long side of the bed runs along the back wall of the room. Gregor's chest of drawers is next to the head of the bed (which is in the corner), and has the alarm clock on it. In the bottom right corner is the large table with the fabric samles and picture hanging above it (since the tabe is in the corner, the picture could either be on the short or long sides of the rectangle. I chose the long side because it is more visible to Gregor from his bed). The hallway door (not the double door leading to the living room) is found between the chest of drawers and the table. Gregor's writing desk is in the bottom left corner, just left of the double doors. The couch is next to the writing desk, so it is against the left short wall and near the top left corner.
Color Suggestions:
-gray carpet with dark green rug
-faded lavender couch, perhaps 2 brown cushions
-brown table, bureau, and chest of drawers
-black alarm clock with wooden rectangular base. I think we should make it like the old fashioned alarm clocks with bells at the top. I will do dots or roman numerals (depending on how close) instead of numbers.
-gray breadspread with white sheets.
Character Suggestions:
-The manager can have short black hair with dark brown eyes.
-The mother has messed up unbraided hair (this is mentioned in the text). She is wearing a skirt (probably long) which I will color light purple. She can be wearing a white long-sleeve shirt. I imagined her with long gray hair and brown eyes.
-The father can be wearing a dark blue robe (I'm not sure what is mentioned in the text).
He can have short gray hair and brown eyes.
The only problem with this setup is that Gregor must pull himself up on the chest of drawers, which I placed next to the head of the bed. However, Gregor crashes out of the end of his bed.
Please give feedback.
New chapter list!
ReplyDeleteJordyn--Chapter I scene six has already been claimed by the Ari's.
CHAPTER I
Scene I--Ari F
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jaz
Scene 4--Feruza
Scene 5--
Scene 6--Ari H-C
Scene 7--Reid
Scene 8--Aaron possibly?
Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--
Scene 10--
Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III
Scene 1--Dan
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jeffrey
Scene 4--
Scene 5--
Scene 6--Katie
Scene 7--
Scene 8--Rob
Scene 9--Benji
Scene 10--Irvin
Scene 11--Sasha
Scene 12--Kayleigh
Nate--does it look to you like Julia "leading" has made any difference? No. Please can we limit this to things that are real problems?
ReplyDeleteDesiree, Alex, and Feruza. I love you guys. Much as I grumble to myself at having to read your long posts, they are MARVELOUSLY helpful and will be be instrumental in our continuity in the long run.
To answer questions raised:
Standard size: 6' long, 3' wide, 1' tall
Carpeted means wood floor with a rug.
ALSO:
Please stop raising issues that have already been resolved. We have so many things to worry about as is without getting into things we have already voted on. Plus too many posts makes it hard for me to parse out what is actually an issue and needs to be addressed. As in, please stop talking about the Julia thing, it hasn't even made any difference at all, and also he is a scarab, and we are drawing them portrait. End of story. Thanks.
And can people post questions with the heading "QUESTION" like alex did? That was incredibly helpful.
Sorry if I didn't address everything.
(Also Desiree that sounds good. Could you just move the chest of drawers? Would that be too much trouble?)
If people have immediate questions feel free to call me:
ReplyDelete405.642.0340
I am trying to spend a lot of time on here but I have other homework/activities/etc so it is difficult to respond with the necessary speed.
ALSO IF YOU HAVE NOT CLAIMED A SCENE CLAIM ONE NOW!!!!
Well crap, i thought it was free, I've already done the complete one...but i guess i can do another.
ReplyDeleteAri have you started yet? I would seriously prefer to not spend another four hours on this.
ReplyDeleteNo i'll call ari! Good job jordyn, damn. I'll get ahold of him and tell him that you've already done it so if he could pick another one...unless he is finished too, then you both have to fight. In a cage. To the death.
ReplyDeleteHaha thanks tess, that would be great. Also are we doing Colored pencils or Markers? I've got two copies.
ReplyDeleteColored pencils. Easier to standardize.
ReplyDeleteIll take chapter 3 scene 7.
ReplyDeletecolored pencils = better.
ReplyDeleteand don't forget, black-outline everything. it'll look neat.
Desiree, i loved the description of the room, it was very helpful, thank you. along with the character designs. thanks alot =]
i think we have agreed upon pretty much everything by now. all that is needed are the actual drawings people have made or are still in the process of making. if people keep posting descriptions of their drawings, it would be helpful for others in deciding how to draw their own, for example if their scene comes up right after an already drawn out scene.
thanks guys ^^
I agree with Althea's suggestion with the colors (if hard working people haven't already done the coloring)
ReplyDeletealso, if people want to email (jolzgrafe@gmail.com) me their scanned pics, I can find a place for them and link to them, so that we have an idea of what other people are doing
ReplyDeleteooo i like that idea jeffrey. ill email you mine later today or tomorrow morning ^^; thanks. (is the site you're thinking of tinypic.com? possibly?)
ReplyDeleteDesiree, we are going to have slightly different rooms because I already drew mine with the bureau next to the door, but across the room (both on the long wall) from the bed. It is going to be impossible to get everybody to have the exact same room, though, so we just need to make sure that we have the exact same things in each room. We could forward everybody (via e-mail) one of our rooms to model theirs after. It would be worth a try. However, I am just going to put what I have in my drawing:
ReplyDelete-desk in the bottom right corner of the room
-chair right in front of desk (to the left of it in 2-D drawing)
-bureau to the left of the desk (above it in drawing 2-D)
-alarm clock on desk
-two doors (I can still erase one if you guys don't like it). One of them is at the top center and the other in the right center wall
-the top and bottom walls are short and the side walls are long (as was convenient for the portrait format)
-an extra painting besides the woman in fur in the top left corner
-the woman in fur painting (which I meant to say earlier was hanging over the bureau, not on top of it)
-a bed at the bottom left corner
-a sofa at the top left corner(right below the extra painting in 2-D)
-the window cannot be seen in my drawing but it is supposed to be next to the desk and bed on the bottom wall
-a table in the top right corner of the room
I will email everybody an email (as long as I have it saved) with the scanned picture in it.
NOTE: My drawing is a piece of garbage compared to what most of ya'll will have. I will make it better but my lack of artistic intelligence will hinder my ability to draw anything remotely aesthetically pleasing. This drawing is just to show where everything is.
Oh, just thought of a good idea. I will make an email with the drawing on its sent and inbox folders for anyone that didn't get the email.
ReplyDeleteUSERNAME: GraphicNovelMetamorphosis
PASSWORD: Crappyart
Jeffrey, I did not read your idea. I feel dumb now. Oh well. But still, if you want to see my drawing, use the username and password above or check your email to see if I sent it to you. Everything is labeled just to make sure you know what it is. Yeah, its that bad.
ReplyDeleteya, we can use that email thats actually alot better of an idea. What site is it one (gmail yahoo?)
ReplyDeleteOkay, I put it on the email. Its GraphicNovelMetamorphosis@yahoo.com. I forgot to say that. pass: Crappyart. Do not have enough of yall's email addresses so I am just putting it in the inbox of the one I made.
ReplyDeleteYAHOO!
ReplyDeleteWhy don't we just have an electronic art show? Everybody should put their drawings on The Yahoo (as some technologically handicapped people would say). Mine is in black and white right now. Feel free to send it, unfinished, or not.
ReplyDeleteOk, since im not sure what people want with the color scheme I am going with a yellow dress for the sister, she also has her hair back in a low pony tail, otherwise i am following desiree's suggestions, aka; i amend the list of colors, now the fathers uniform is dark blue (as she said his robe would be), and the mother is wearing a purple skirt and white shirt and has grey hair, and gregor is brown. ok? if we can keep that consistent it would be great. :)
ReplyDeletehah thanks for that idea Alex, and nice password too ^^;
ReplyDeletei hope we can get everyone's drawings in that email-inbox by tomorrow night so then everyone would be able to see what we have so far.
Althea - i think we should just stick with what you suggested since not many ideas are being thrown around on here...
Alex - its a very good sketch but wasnt the size of Gregor wider than the doors?? just wondering, because in your sketch he seems alot smaller than what we had voted on...
ReplyDeleteWAIT ARE WE DOING LANDSCAPE OR PORTRAIT?
ReplyDeleteAliyah - earlier posts said PORTRAIT drawings..
ReplyDeleteare we using quotes from the text, or is it ok if we just paraphrase things
ReplyDeleteRob - hm..i think it would be better to paraphrase since most of the dialogue is long and we need room for all that in our drawings. i would say paraphrase, unless its short and simple...
ReplyDeleteothers, post opinions on that here!
Althea, how long did you make the sister's dress? What is the style of it? what is her hair color? Her eye color? I think it should be dark to keep consistency with the family.
ReplyDeleteAlso, let's stick with desiree's color ideas, but let's have the walls be grey-green and the bed be four poster (just becuase it will be so much cooler to draw)
ReplyDeleteHow are people formatting dialogue? Bubble quotes? This was never resolved...
ReplyDeleteSorry, Feruza, you're right. Gregor is too small in my drawing. I need to make him big enough so that he cannot fit through one of the doors in the double door. However, it is hard to tell exactly how big he is just from the drawing because I am not sure how big his room is.
ReplyDeleteHow many people here have scanners, because we need to see more example's of everyones art so that we can blend them and make the whole graphic novel look more uniform. Also, does anyone have any suggestions on the positioning of the furniture in my drawing? Or, for that matter, does anyone have any advice on how to make it better? The bed really sucks and I am not sure how to make it better. The other stuff ain't so hot either...
ReplyDeleteBy the way, my drawing is portrait, but I scanned it landscape by accident. We are doing portrait.
I am putting all of my dialogue in the caption (which is non-existent in my first draft that I scanned). The caption will be at the bottom for me and will be about one inch high. I will type mine if that is OK.
ReplyDeleteDoes everybody agree with the fact that Gregor's room has two sets of doors, one on a long wall, and the other on a short wall?
ReplyDeleteya, it mentions that his sisters room is adjacent to his with a door connecting the two
ReplyDeleteSorry this is so long guys, i just wanted to accumulate all the current guidelines to make it easier for people and also to avoid loosing important details in all of these millions of posts.
ReplyDeleteThanks Tess for keeping everything working!
ALL DRAWINGS DUE MONDAY!!!
-Portrait (vertical page)
-1 inch margin on ALL SIDES.
-brown bug, two antennae, six legs
-Scarab/dung beetle
-handwritten captions and dialogue, block all-caps
-black outline of drawings
-colored pencil
-1/4 of an inch margins between panels
- Gregor is 3-4 feet wide, 1 ft tall, and 6 ft long
-dialogue bubbles and thought bubbles, or captions (which would go below the panel)
Room Details
-4 walls
-Table has fabric samples on it (those including the table in their scene should communicate to determine the arrangement, colors and patterns, and number of fabric samples)
-Picture of woman with fur boa and hat above the table (Alex said it was on the table, but it is actually hanging above it). The picture is from a glossy magazine and has a gilt frame. The woman is sitting upright and raising a heavy fur muff that engulfs her forearm. Again, those including this in their scene should coordinate the details such as hair color and dress of the woman.
-The weather outside the window is overcast and foggy.
-Gregor has a spot on his belly with white dots.
-There is a rug behind Gregor's bed which he crashes onto, but I'm not sure if it is another rug in addition to the carpeted flooring or if it is the carpeted flooring. I will assume it is a different rug.
-The manager has patent leather boots.
-First the alarm clock reads 6:30. Then it hits 6:45 and 7:00 depending on your scene.
-gray carpet with dark green rug
-faded lavender couch, perhaps 2 brown cushions
-brown table, bureau, and chest of drawers
-black alarm clock with wooden rectangular base. I think we should make it like the old fashioned alarm clocks with bells at the top. I will do dots or roman numerals (depending on how close) instead of numbers.
-gray bedspread with white sheets.
Character Descriptions
-The manager can have short black hair with dark brown eyes.
-The mother has messed up unbraided hair (this is mentioned in the text). She is wearing a skirt (probably long) which I will color light purple. She can be wearing a white long-sleeve shirt. I imagined her with long gray hair and brown eyes.
-The father can be wearing a dark blue robe (I'm not sure what is mentioned in the text).
He can have short gray hair and brown eyes.
-yellow dress for the sister, she also has her hair back in a low pony tail
Tess' phone number (for emergencies) - 405.642.0340
The Yahoo account where you can send your pages and see a drawing of the room - GraphicNovelMetamorphosis@yahoo.com
Username: GraphicNovelMetamorphosis
Password: Crappyart
correct any of this if it is incorrect, thanks
let's make it a four poster bed.
ReplyDeletelike this:
http://www.purelypine.co.uk/product-images/20075131544230.Four%20poster.jpg
or actually, curtains would be much more fun to draw (though maybe they're too complicated?):
http://www.venere.com/img/hotel/5/2/0/1/271025/image_room_suite_double_1.jpg
And if you imagine that the second picture has a desk and bureau on the wall opposite the bed, it works well for layout purposes as well. Who has already drawn their section? And how have you guys done it?
I said i wanted Chapter I scene 5.
ReplyDeleteI am against the handwritten captions. I would like to do mine on the computer. That way, if I have less stuff that I can mess up (I really do not want to restart the whole thing). Also, not all of the details Desiree, Elissa, and I mentioned have to be included in the drawing. Some people just do not have the artistic ability to draw these things (like me). However, the basics should definitely be there.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I changed my drawing a little bit. Everything is exactly where it was, but I added a panel in the bottom left corner (not including the caption) that depicts what Gregor is seeing. The bed is not seen in my drawing because of this, but everything else is the same.
SCAN AND SEND YOUR DRAWINGS TO: graphicnovelmetamorphosis@yahoo.com
DO IT!!!
I'm using Alex's caption style, and this picture as reference for the style of the furniture, and positioning of the bed/coffee table and bedside alarm clock, also, let's use the coffee table as his table, and have the fabric samples be green, gray and purple, purple being nearest the settee and green closest to the alarm clock.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.venere.com/img/hotel/5/2/0/1/271025/image_room_suite_double_1.jpg
HURRAY! I've sent a sketch of my page to graphicnovelmetamorphosis@yahoo.com, so if you want to log on, use the password Crappyart, also, please post ideas/comments/crit, sorry if it's hard to see, it's just a pencil sketch
ReplyDeletethough by one i'm going to start inking, so if something is wrong, please tell me soon
JAZ:
ReplyDeleteI though it is strange for Gregor to have a four poster bed because he does not have the most luxurious life. I imagined him with very simple furniture, but if you have already gotten far on your picture, I am willing to do it. Also, I will use Alex's room design to keep everything uniform.
QUESTION:
Because Alex is typing his captions, does that mean we are all going to? Does that mean we will glue the text onto our pictures? Can we still do though/speech bubbles, or are we restricted to quoting in the caption box?
NO! Alex we agreed in class, handwritten, block, all caps.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Tess
ReplyDeleteNew chapter list!
ReplyDeleteCHAPTER I
Scene I--Ari F
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jaz
Scene 4--Feruza
Scene 5--Desiree
Scene 6--Jordyn
Scene 7--Reid
Scene 8--Aaron possibly?
Scene 9--Aaron possibly?
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--
Scene 10--
Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III
Scene 1--Dan
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jeffrey
Scene 4--
Scene 5--
Scene 6--Katie
Scene 7--Althea
Scene 8--Rob
Scene 9--Benji
Scene 10--Irvin
Scene 11--Sasha
Scene 12--Kayleigh
IF YOU DO NOT CLAIM A SCENE BY TWO P.M. I AM ASSIGNING THEM.
Also, is someone calling me and blocking their number? I keep getting anonymous calls... and the voicemails are just random noise...normally I would assume some prank or something but since I just gave my number out...
Also, speech/thought bubbles are okay, right?
ReplyDeleteDesiree: Yes, speech bubbles are A-okay. Also, about the bed, on page 1643 he slams into the lower bedpost, and even though it is pretty ambiguous, I think a four poster will fit.
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ReplyDeleteOkay, we have a problem. people who are doing chapter III have completely signed up, which is AMAZING, good job, but we still have 3 scenes that are not being drawn! And we have one extra person on Chapter I, so out of the three that still need a scene (Julia, Alex L, and Ari H-C) would one of you like to switch over? Please? Or two, since Aaron has offered to draw two... and we need as many people as possible moving to Chapters II and III.
ReplyDeleteAlso, beyond that, we need people to start offering to draw multiple scenes. Chapter two has 5 scenes still to be claimed. I'll take 1 and 2 but that still leaves three. Please step up people!
And can anyone else call Ari H-C and tell him about the Jordyn thing? I've been trying to reach him but so far nothing, so I'm getting worried.
Chapter II scene 7. Dibs.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'll take number 2 in group one.
ReplyDeleteI've given the cleaning woman (number 2) curly, shoulder length brown hair, brown eyes, an overcoat, and a bowler-type hat with an ostrich feather in it (textual evidence).
ReplyDeleteNew chapter list!
ReplyDeleteCHAPTER I
Scene I--Ari F
Scene 2--Alex L
Scene 3--Jaz
Scene 4--Feruza
Scene 5--Desiree
Scene 6--Jordyn
Scene 7--Reid
Scene 8--Aaron
Scene 9--Aaron
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--Tess
Scene 2--Tess
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--Ran
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--
Scene 10--
Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III
Scene 1--Dan
Scene 2--
Scene 3--Jeffrey
Scene 4--
Scene 5--
Scene 6--Katie
Scene 7--Althea
Scene 8--Rob
Scene 9--Benji
Scene 10--Irvin
Scene 11--Sasha
Scene 12--Kayleigh
Okay, this means Ari and Julia need to move to Chapter III (or two).
I've talked to Julia and she's cool with it, she's out of her house right now but will pick one as soon as she gets home.
I'm trying to get ahold of Marissa, but neither phone is picking up, so I will keep trying. In the mean time, can anyone who has a small scene volunteer to take either 9 or 10 in chapter II, so in case I do no get ahold of Marissa until late we're not forcing her to do two big scenes back to back? If no one else can, I can do one of them...
Gah! everyone stealing my scenes! Okay, fine, I'll do chapter 2 scene 1.
ReplyDeletewhoops... list just updated... that one's taken too... I'll do 2-10.
ReplyDeleteThanks ari! I'm sorry you got messed up by all that. Okay, I can do chapter 2 scene 2 and scene 10, leaving marissa scene nine.
ReplyDeletehere is the new scene/chapter list for chapter II
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--Ari H-C
Scene 2--Tess
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--Ran
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--
Scene 10--Tess (?)-> unless Marissa wants it
Scene 11--Sidney
okay, nevermind. good thing I really do not care...
ReplyDeleteNEW chapter list
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--Tess
Scene 2--Ari-H-C
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--Ran
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--MARISSA--OFFICIALLY ASSIGNED.
Scene 10--Ari H-C
Scene 11--Sidney
JAZ - i love your sketch and since it comes right before the scene i am doing, ill try my best to uniform what you have so far. and i somewhat agreed with Desiree with the bed being too luxurious for Gregor but not anymore i guess..
ReplyDeleteTESS - i guess i can claim SCENE 2 of CHAP 1. if it already taken (whoever they are, i dont see a name in the lists so far) i will then move to chap 2/3 depending on what you have by 2 pm today. k?
EVERYONE - i had a sketch already done yesterday but more and more posts were posted on here that i had to change some things in my sketch so i will send that in later today, hopefully along with the new scene i will get assigned after Tess responds...
woops sorry Tess, you posted before me XD
ReplyDeleteChapter three people! I need you to step up and offer to take more than one scene. Julia is joining you, but making her take three scenes is ridiculous and unfair. If no one else is willing to, I can take on scene 2. That leaves 4 and 5. Julia, are you okay with doing both of those?
ReplyDeleteTESS - im not sure who still needs to sign up that hasnt already but are there still people in our class who have not said a word to you about wanting to do a scene that is not taken already in the lists so far? if chapter three people do not respond after some time today, i will offer to take up a scene.
ReplyDeletewait... why am I on two scenes now? why'd you switch me and you tess?
ReplyDeleteso are we doing dialogue in a caption at the bottom or in speech bubbles?
ReplyDeleteI will do chapter 3 scene 2 unless someone does not have a scene yet and wants it.
ReplyDeleteNever mind, Tess says she will do it. I can do chapter III scene 4.
ReplyDeleteJeffrey: we can do either captions or speech bubbles.
ohhh wait i figured out what you meant ari. Just kidding. let me update it. i thought you meant scenes 2 and 10 of chap 2..
ReplyDeleteFor the captions or speech bubbles thing....if the person in the picture is speaking, it should be a speech bubble. If it is action that needs to be explained, it is a caption. Make sense?
FINAL CHAPTER LIST:
CHAPTER I
Scene I--Ari F
Scene 2--Alex L
Scene 3--Jaz
Scene 4--Feruza
Scene 5--Desiree
Scene 6--Jordyn
Scene 7--Reid
Scene 8--Aaron
Scene 9--Aaron
CHAPTER II
Scene 1--Tess
Scene 2--Tess
Scene 3--Elissa
Scene 4--Nate
Scene 5--Alex G
Scene 6--Alejandra
Scene 7--Ran
Scene 8--Aliyah
Scene 9--MARISSA
Scene 10--Ari H-C
Scene 11--Sidney
CHAPTER III
Scene 1--Dan
Scene 2--Tess
Scene 3--Jeffrey
Scene 4--Desiree
Scene 5--JULIA
Scene 6--Katie
Scene 7--Althea
Scene 8--Rob
Scene 9--Benji
Scene 10--Irvin
Scene 11--Sasha
Scene 12--Kayleigh
I am making the manager's suit dark gray so it is not the same color as Gregor's father's suit. He is wearing square brown glasses.
ReplyDeleteAnother important thing: draw only on the front of pages!
ReplyDeleteDoes everyone agree with this?
And here is the overall color scheme for characters:
Gregor: brown
Sister(Grete): Yellow
Mother
Father: Blue
Manager: Gray
What about the charwoman/the first maid/the renters?
Who is drawing them and what colors are they?
Also, note that your scene can take up more than one page, and i think some big scenes could have one page of just one picture. Like the first scene, etc. For example, the scene where Gregor is looking wistfully out the window (scene seven, chapter one) could be a very beautiful moment, with just one page full of a giant bug leaning on a chair looking at the stars. (Reid is drawing that...what do you think, Reid?)
It could create an interesting way to emphasize the dehumanization of Gregor across the book, by highlighting different moments. Comments? Thoughts?
What kind of paper are people using? That's another thing we should standardize, if only for my sake, so I know how I'm gonna need to bind it.
ReplyDeleteI thought we were just using 8.5 by 11 computer paper, because everybody will have that
ReplyDeleteYeah, that would make sense, I just want to make sure someone hasn't drawn on cardstock or anything before I begin...
ReplyDeleteI'm using printer paper. And what color is the mom? you list her name, but didn't give a color.
ReplyDeleteoff topic... the other classes must either be really unorganized or have gotten a ton done in class, because they have like an average of 30 comments, unlike our almost 200.
That is because the mother was never totally decided...it was originally stated she should be blue, but the father is clearly stated to be blue most of the time in the book, so red for her? Agreed?
ReplyDeleteNO! I already gave the mom messy gray hair, a white button down shirt and a light purple pleated skirt. She is wearing tan slippers.
ReplyDeleteAlex, the picture of the lady is over the table, not the chest of bureau.
ReplyDeleteQUESTION:
ReplyDeleteAre we putting boxes around the captions or can we just have them in empty space? I put them in empty space if it's okay.
wait, I thought my scene was the one where his family gets freaked out when they first see him, but I could try to draw him looking out the window...I'm not sure I'll be able to make it that beautiful but I'll try. Also, for the dialogue, should we use direct quotes from the text or just make it up to convey what's going on?
ReplyDeleteI think we just make it up.
ReplyDeleteI have sent Chapter I scene 5 to GraphicNovelMetamorphosis in case anyone wants to view it. The other scene will have to wait because this has taken me all day and I am sick of drawing.
ReplyDeleteHEY
ReplyDeleteok so soooooo sorry this has taken me so long to get to, i've been out of the house. and all these comments took forever to read through!
THANKS tess and desiree and feruza and althea and jaz for helping standardize things.
everything looks like it's working out great!!
couple of things:
-desiree empty space is fine
-REMEMBER if you're doing your scence on more than one page it needs to take up full pages, don't leave large ammounts of white space at the end of the page
-tess: i really like your idea about the darker to lighter thing, and an easy way to do that would be with shading on the margins, but that would have to be something that you did (i can help!) when binding it. (if this doesn't make sence i'll talk to you more about this later)
-so everyone go with purple skirt, white shirt, and gray hair for the mom!
-i don't have a scanner, so i guess you guys will just have to be surprised by my drawing on monday! but don't worry, i will follow all guidelines.
QUESTION: was the length of the sisters dress ever established? how has it been drawn?
I'm using heavyweight paper for the cover, it's about an inch larger on each side, and I'll bring an extra sheet for the back as well.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Mr. Sharp will need to be able to determine who drew which page, so we should probably sign our names at the bottom of our pages.
QUESTIN: looking at alex's sketch, where's the window?? on the wall with the side of the bed?
ReplyDeleteALSO the portrait of the girl is above the desk, correct? so the picture with the sailboat that alex has is not suppossed to be there....right?
where are these sketches?
ReplyDeleteemail
ReplyDeleteusername: GraphicNovelMetamorphasis@yahoo.com
password: Crappyart
REID--Sorry I meant Ran. He has chapter II, scene 7
ReplyDeleteI found them.
ReplyDeleteoh, okay. thanks, that clears things up.
ReplyDeleteoh, and my scanner's broken, so I won't be able to get my work to you until school, sorry.
ReplyDeleteJulia- I'll be drawing the sister's dress as a sundress, so not long. I duno what other people have done.
ReplyDeleteI did not leave large white spaces at the bottom, just 1`` margins on all sides. can we keep the picture above the bureau because i included it in a sketch, but i made it unclear what the picture is of, so someone else can decide if they need to.
ReplyDeletewhere do we go to look at other people's work?
ReplyDeleteSasha's cleaning woman #2 is the old woman not the sixteen year old, correct?
ReplyDeleteReid, go to GraphicNovelMetamorphosis@yahoo.com. The password is Crappyart
how are people drawing the boarders?
ReplyDeleteDesiree-yes. Sasha was describing the charwoman.
ReplyDeleteFor people drawing the father in his uniform--It is dark blue with gold buttons, and I am thinking I will draw it with tails and black shoes?
ReplyDeleteam I doing both scene 8&9?
ReplyDeleteI will, but I thought I thought it was just scene 9 I was doing
Unfortunately, I am almost finished with my final copy, so I am going to have a hard time making the captions handwritten because I printed out the caption before I drew it. However, because I have a scanner, I can just scan my picture into the outline that I made before and just hope it looks good. I can then proceed to write in the caption. Also, I already have the picture with the sail boat because it said that his room had things on the walls before the mother and sister started moving things. I just decided to make a random decoration. I hope that everyone else uses it also.
ReplyDeleteQUESTION (I have not even been using my own format): Do we have to outline our drawings in black ink. That will take forever! I'll do it, but I'd rather not...
Also, do not put your name on the page that you drew. I will make a table of contents if everyone would like that. It will not be fancy, but perhaps I will add some razzle-dazzle to it (NH). Personally, I am going to hide my name somewhere in the art, but that's kinda cliche, so I would not expect everyone to do it.
ReplyDeleteDang it! I was going to look up where it said that the picture of the lady was over the bureau and then correct you guys, but I was wrong (I was almost positive too). EVERYBODY, MAKE SURE THE PICTURE OF THE LADY IS OVER THE TABLE AND NOT OVER THE BUREAU.
ReplyDeleteQUESTION: Where is the table positioned? I have it far away from the bed, but Jaz has it next to his bed. It did not say anything about the positioning of the table. Also, Jaz has the alarm clock on the table next to his bed. In the text it said that the alarm clock was "ticking away by the chest of drawers." This is why I put it on the desk, which is next to the chest of drawers.
P.S. Sorry for making the password Crappyart. I wanted to emphasize how my art was not very good, but now it seems that I am calling everybody else's art crappy. I made the account before I thought of having everyone else put there art on it as well, sorry about that...
answers: yes, you have to outline in black ink. Sorry I know that takes time, but it will make everything look cleaner and more defined.
ReplyDeleteI can copy the table of contents into the cover, so don't worry about doing that Alex. It will be easier this way...
To Aaron: Yeah, sorry for that, it just sort of fell out that way because you said you could, and then we didn't have enough people, and so...yeah. sorry. I hope that's not too much work.
ALIYAH: Can you help Marissa? She found out so late that she was drawing scene 9, and it's a big scene, and since scene 8 is very short, could we extend it a bit?
I have sent my Chapter III scene 4 to the email address in case anyone wants to see it.
ReplyDeleteNote to everyone: Please check this regularly. Don't check it, leave a comment, and drop off. Comment and wait to see what people say. Check back before doing anything drastic. I'm worried about all the people who have only posted once, because I think that maybe we have a couple people who have been on here a ton and a couple who haven't been on at all, and half of us are going to be uniform and the rest not. So PLEASE check back regularly, find out what details you need, check in with the people who have scenes immediately on either side of yours, and make sure your drawings have the same characteristics we've been working out on here.
ReplyDeleteThanks to everyone who has contributed! Good luck finishing tonight!
Muahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMysterious Blogger!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Stupid sophmores, slaving away while Mr. Sharp whips you with his moustache whips!
Fools! All of you!
I could make a really long post and make every one of you scroll through it every time you look at this blog, but I am not that big of a jerk. Just a mysterious blogger who tells stupid people that they are stupid. Stupid!
Wow, you guys have a lot more blogging than the other classes. While you are more whipped by Mr. Sharp's moustache, you are also better people because you blog so much. For blogging is the best thing in the world! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!!!
My sources tell me that a certain blogger here has his own blog named after Tale of Genji. While I will not single that student out and name him, I will say that I appreciate this person's satirical blog. Most of the time, that is. I respect that student because blogging is the best thing in the world! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
ReplyDeleteMYSTERIOUS BLOGGER - seriously... whoever you are... whatever.
ReplyDeleteANYWAYS GUYS i sent in my drawings to the email. CHECK AND POST ANYTHING ABOUT EM ON HERE! i will not color yet nor outline! i will see what you guys say about it because im not feeling all that good about it just yet...
THANX!
EVERYONE CHECK THE EMAIL AND THIS BLOG PLACE AS FREQUENTLY AS YOU CAN... like Tess said..dont just check and close...
Just to let you know, I am NOT the mysterious blogger.
ReplyDeleteHow is everyone drawing the parlor?
ReplyDeleteWHAT COLOR IS HIS BLANKET
ReplyDeleteAND WHAT COLORS ARE THE PARTS OF THE BED, LIKE THE DRAPES OF IT?
AND THE FLOOR
AND WAHT COLOR IS HIS BELLY
ReplyDeleteNVM HIS BELLY IS BROWN.
ReplyDeleteBUT THE BLANKKET
alriighty then i made da blanket blue
ReplyDeleteI need a reference picture of the sofa, the cloth samples, and the picture of the lady with the boa and the fur. Also, I need to know if the carpet has to be drawn, because I do not know how one goes about drawing a carpet. What is the color of the sofa, desk, table, and bureau. Please respond in man-colors, not anything like salmon, lavender, mauve etc. I want red, blue, yellow and other well known colores. I know I could just look it up online but, come on. Am I really gonna have a lavender colored pencil? Sorry if I sound mean, but I don't understand all of these colors. Sorry artsy people.
ReplyDeleteI hope my new drawing is satisfactory, because I have been trying to get the details correct but every time I try to draw them I mess up...
couch color?
ReplyDeleteokay, sofa=maroonish (dark red alekz)
ReplyDeleteThanks Ran. I'm glad somebody appreciates man-colors.
ReplyDeleteIt is so stupid that we have to outline it in pen! I mean to sound angry! Grrrrrr! I am going to notice something after I have already outlined it in pen. I bet anyone 100 dollars that this is going to happen. Now, I have no wiggle room. Pen ink is indelible, as opposed to pencil, which cannot endure life's (inanimateness's?) many vicissitudes (you know, the flotsam and jetsam of inanimateness). But seriously! Why in pen? Not only will I mess up for sure, but I can't change anything. I really don't like that idea!
ReplyDeleteDONE, but my scanner is not hooked up properly, so sorry for the inconvenience
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ReplyDeleteAlex, its called white out.
ReplyDeleteI apologize to whatever unnamed person writes the Tale of Genji blog. My previous comment made it seem like you were the Mysterious Blogger. Obviously not. Nobody can blog as well as the Mysterious Blogger! Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
ReplyDeleteThe Mysterious Blogger is serious. The Mysterious Blogger would never try to make it seem like some undeserving person is getting the credit for his blog. Additionally, he would never try to get anyone else in trouble. I you must know, my sources tell me that the Mysterious Blogger is not even in one of the four classes doing this petty assignment. He is stirring up a bit of trouble and has too much time on his hands. With this time, though, he is making masterful blogs. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
ReplyDeleteThat was meant to say, "If you must know" not "I you must know. Obviously, this was a computer error, as the Mysterious Blogger's blogs are flawless. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
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