merek/jim are in charge of compiling all the hand drawn artwork onto the computer. amanda, since you had a pretty clear idea of a medium you should talk with merek/jim.
next class i guess we should assign specific parts to people then do it over the weekend. if we do it that way, everyone MUST bring their finished drawing in on monday!!!!!!!!!!! ....but we'll talk on friday
Ok, here are the pictures I came up with for Chapter III:
1) Gregor's injury, with the apple and such, costs him mobility but compels his family to treat him like a human for a time and let him sit by the parlor door; he watches the mother and sister trying to coax the father to bed, though he insists on staying up a bit longer (1661-2) 2) No one has time to look after Gregor in this busy household; the maid is dismissed and the charwoman is hired; because of Gregor, the family cannot move into a new apartment (show a family discussion? not sure) (1662-3)
3) The family works hard, father fetching breakfast for minor bank tellers, sister working behind the counter, etc.; Gregor worries about his family and dreams of his past life (1663) 4) The sister begins to neglect Gregor, caring less about the food she brings and tidying the room only in the evenings --> his room gets filthier; the mother goes in to clean Gregor's room, sister gets angry --> fighting in the family (1663-4)
5) Charwoman accidentally comes upon Gregor, but is unfazed, even later when Gregor pretends he's going to attack her (1664) 6) The household takes on three boarders, who bring their own luggage, so the family begins to store excess in Gregor's room (1664-5)
7) The family leaves the door between Gregor's room and the parlor closed in order to avoid disturbing the boarders, although once the charwoman left it open and Gregor saw the household serve them potatoes and such; Gregor compares how well the boarders eat to his own starvation; the family eats in the kitchen (1665) 8) The sister begins to play her violin in the kitchen, and the boarders stop reading the paper to listen; the sister moves to the parlor (1665-6)
9) Gregor, drawn by the music, ventures out into the parlor, and imagines his sister venturing into his room for him alone and sending her to the music conservatory (1666-7) 10) The boarders notice Gregor; chaos ensues and the boarders give notice (1667)
11) The sister explodes, arguing that they must get rid of Gregor (1668) 12) Gregor wheels around and back into his room; the family reacts with fear; Gregor finally makes it back into his room, and the sister slams the door behind him; Gregor finds he cannot move and dies (1668-9)
13) The charwoman discovers Gregor's corpse; the family learns Gregor is dead and they thank God (1669-70) 14) The father banishes the boarders (1670-1)
15) The family decides to take a day to celebrate and write to their superiors; the charwoman says she has already “taken care of” Gregor's body; the father says she will be dismissed that night and calls the family to forget the past (1671) 16) The family leaves the apartment and takes a trolley to the countryside and discuss their bright future; the daughter gets out of the carriage first and her parents realize her potential (1672)
Should we have an impersonal narrator or Gregor as narrator, or no narrator at all? Roughly how many panels per page/how should they be outlined (need it be consistent)? We should also flesh out the color idea . . . this can come later, though, and I think we should all ink our drawings (if done by hand) first. Perhaps start almost full-color, then start eliminating them as Gregor gets less human, then add them back in after his death?
Also, after we pick what we're doing, we should try to coordinate with the people who have the scenes directly before and after ours to make sure everything flows. Each of these should probably have several panels and may amount to several pages. If we don't cut these down, each person should have two of these bullets, preferably consecutive ones (they're already grouped together above). If possible, I'd like to do 9-10, though I'm up for anything, and I know Becky mentioned something about wanting to do 15-16. Please post which ones you'd like to do and any changes you'd like to make so we can keep a master list. We'll finalize everything Friday and start getting some sort of standard format put together, I suppose (borders, speech bubbles, title pages, etc.).
For Gregor the beetle/vermin/bug thing, the entire class should probably base their drawing off one model /picture. Gregor has pincer-headgear, he's dark, has a hard shell, lots of legs. I think these pictures might work as a guides. Unless some people envision him more of a millipede (lots of legs!)?
1) When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin. -- probably a full page drawing of a beetle in bed? It allows you to add in the other parts of his room, like the window, alarm clock, randomly framed magazine picture? I think it would be fun to caption this with the first sentence.
2)Gregor rocking back and forth on his bed, trying to get up, his mother and sister behind opposite walls asking what is the matter.
3)Manager comes to the house. Gregor falls to the ground with a bang.
4)Manager still asking for Gregor, Gregor attempting to respond, sounds like an animal.
5) Grete and Anna run to get the doctor and the locksmith.
6) Gregor uses his 'teeth' to unlock the door.
7) Gregor comes out. Everyone's shocked faces, knocking over coffee. Manager runs away.
8) Father starts to stamp and chase Gregor, who is walking backward. Gregor turns around and moves forward.
9) Gregor gets stuck in the door. Father kicks him in.
*I would like to do either (2) or (9). These are a rough outline, we can change the page divides and combine or split pages. The minimum number of pages we can produce is 7, one for each person. Victoria
I'll try to get the email list posted up sometime today. Sorry I didn't last night. Laura had more than 8 scenes which brings up a good conflict of interest.
Naturally some chapters are going to have more key scenes than others, so Kara needs to finish Chapter 2's scene list and on Friday, as a whole, we will decide which are most important and cut if necessary, or if individuals are willing, some people can do more than one scene.
Hey Victoria, I'm really digging the http://www.hootingyard.org/archive/beetle.jpg beetle picture. I also really like the scene ideas you have. My favorites are scenes six and seven. I also think that we should have a vote on the pictures you have up there, because they aren't the same bug, if you look at them even remotely closely, but the one I referenced above has more of what I was thinking going on.
Another thing is, on Friday, we should split into the three chapter groups after we finish standardizing the main points. That way we can split up work more efficiently, rather than having the whole class work with the other groups. That might sound obvious, but sometimes the obvious is over looked.
I have a picture of the notes we took on the board today. I can't figure out how to post it so I will go ahead and email it. Check your emails. If you don't get it, then your email may be wrong on the above list.
Another thing. Whoever is doing scene five needs to message and or email me about what their last scene is so that I can start my first scene in the right place.
For the entire graphic novel -- we need standards for the outside margins and the gaps between panels... maybe 1 inch all around the page left empty, then 1/4 inch for in between boxes? Just a suggestion.
Alright. Chapter I scenes. You aren't limited to one page, I don't think. Panels or full page, whichever is appropriate.
Read the section for details -- and to make sure I didn't mess up the order of things.
1) Dominic 2) Victoria 3) Vic 4) Meg 5) Sofia 6) Joe 7) Dominic 8) Angela 9) Ivy
Jack, if you don't mind, you got moved because the other chapters have more stuff going on.
Alright. Actually, I'm going to start my scene with Gregor Samsa climbing up the dresser and such. The last scene will be Gregor finally getting the lock turned, since the next scene is Gregor opening the door.
I kind of agree with Joe about the brown, though I suppose he'll be black in the later chapters with the absence of color. Speaking of which, in the last section, which color are we keeping? Red? Also, we're going with an impersonal narrator, right? I think we should either draw out our pictures with places left for text and write a script for Jim to type it in once he scans it, or we should pick a standard font if people want to do it themselves.
This is a compilation of info so far on my behalf. Be sure to look at the stuff towards the end. That is info taken directly from the text (I've only gone through the first few pages). Make sure you do the same for your scene to ensure everything is consistent with the text.
Chapter I 1) When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin. -- probably a full page drawing of a beetle in bed? It allows you to add in the other parts of his room, like the window, alarm clock, randomly framed magazine picture? I think it would be fun to caption this with the first sentence. 2)Gregor rocking back and forth on his bed, trying to get up, his mother and sister behind opposite walls asking what is the matter. 3)Manager comes to the house. Gregor falls to the ground with a bang. 4)Manager still asking for Gregor, Gregor attempting to respond, sounds like an animal. 5) Grete and Anna run to get the doctor and the locksmith. 6) Gregor uses his 'teeth' to unlock the door. 7) Gregor comes out. Everyone's shocked faces, knocking over coffee. Manager runs away. 8) Father starts to stamp and chase Gregor, who is walking backward. Gregor turns around and moves forward. 9) Gregor gets stuck in the door. Father kicks him in.
Chapter II 1) Sister feeds Gregor 2) Throws away food 3) Listens to conversations through walls/Family discusses how they will cope 4) Sister’s dream of playing violin 5) Covers self with sheet 6) Sister and mom move chest of drawers 7) Gregor breaks out of the sheet 8) Father comes home and throws apples
Chapter III 1) Gregor's injury, with the apple and such, costs him mobility but compels his family to treat him like a human for a time and let him sit by the parlor door; he watches the mother and sister trying to coax the father to bed, though he insists on staying up a bit longer (1661-2) 2) No one has time to look after Gregor in this busy household; the maid is dismissed and the charwoman is hired; because of Gregor, the family cannot move into a new apartment (show a family discussion? not sure) (1662-3) 3) The family works hard, father fetching breakfast for minor bank tellers, sister working behind the counter, etc.; Gregor worries about his family and dreams of his past life (1663) 4) The sister begins to neglect Gregor, caring less about the food she brings and tidying the room only in the evenings --> his room gets filthier; the mother goes in to clean Gregor's room, sister gets angry --> fighting in the family (1663-4) 5) Charwoman accidentally comes upon Gregor, but is unfazed, even later when Gregor pretends he's going to attack her (1664) 6) The household takes on three boarders, who bring their own luggage, so the family begins to store excess in Gregor's room (1664-5) 7) The family leaves the door between Gregor's room and the parlor closed in order to avoid disturbing the boarders, although once the charwoman left it open and Gregor saw the household serve them potatoes and such; Gregor compares how well the boarders eat to his own starvation; the family eats in the kitchen (1665) 8) The sister begins to play her violin in the kitchen, and the boarders stop reading the paper to listen; the sister moves to the parlor (1665-6) 9) Gregor, drawn by the music, ventures out into the parlor, and imagines his sister venturing into his room for him alone and sending her to the music conservatory (1666-7) 10) The boarders notice Gregor; chaos ensues and the boarders give notice (1667) 11) The sister explodes, arguing that they must get rid of Gregor (1668) 12) Gregor wheels around and back into his room; the family reacts with fear; Gregor finally makes it back into his room, and the sister slams the door behind him; Gregor finds he cannot move and dies (1668-9) 13) The charwoman discovers Gregor's corpse; the family learns Gregor is dead and they thank God (1669-70) 14) The father banishes the boarders (1670-1) 15) The family decides to take a day to celebrate and write to their superiors; the charwoman says she has already “taken care of” Gregor's body; the father says she will be dismissed that night and calls the family to forget the past (1671) 16) The family leaves the apartment and takes a trolley to the countryside and discuss their bright future; the daughter gets out of the carriage first and her parents realize her potential (1672)
Color Schemes:
Walls: Peach Chest: Brown Table: Brown Couch: Red Chair: Brown Floor: Grey Pillows: White
Bug:
Armorlike back Brown, vaulted belly partitioned by arching ridges Many thin legs Belly has tiny white specks Very broad Bed has carpet beneath it
Room:
Alarm clock on the wardrobe Photo of naked lady Wooden door Door has a lock
Oh, and the color schemes are what was written on the board, but discussion needs to occur regarding some of them because I don't think they are consistent with the text. For instance, the story is set in the early 1900's therefore the floor was most likely not grey, but rather brown because it would be composed of wood.
I was not here yesterday so I am somewhat confused as to what is going on. Are we drawing our pictures and leaving space for Jim to add the words? Also, as far as the colors and grayscale, etc. what single color do we leave? Finally, what have we decided about borders, margins and other general formatting things?
Okay how about, NO ONE WORRIES ABOUT COLORING RIGHT NOW. Coloring takes 5 seconds, so I think we should try to do that together (maybe in class on Monday?). Everyone can bring a set of color pencils. If we color together, it's more likely that our cartoons will be consistent. DOn't forget to outline your work in black pen (not gel) before you come to class.
Joe: Mr. Sharp said that one page is minimum for everyone. This means that when your stuff is put into the final product it must fill up an entire page.
Yes. Draw your pictures with regards to columns and margins, but don't worry too much about them. I will crop stuff and resize to fit according to the margins and columns I put in. I can't remember what they decided regarding speech bubbles and/or narrator boxes. Angela's idea is probably best for color.
Just a note on that: we are going to use the transition idea to correlate with his dehumanization. So starting full color then gradually working to none/black and white.
Essentially there was a lot of discussion, but very little progress was made which is why people need to get more active on here.
And also...I won't have time for this because I have to leave for work in a couple of minutes, but it might be beneficial for us if some people went to take a gander at the other classes blogs to see how they are doing things. This might help us greatly in figuring out how we need to organize this whole ordeal.
Angela's idea about the whole coloring thing sounds great to me. But Victoria was right in wondering about margins and stuff. I would think perhaps 1/2 inch margins around the page and then just draw thick black lines---maybe 1/8 or so---separating any boxes you may have. We could also standardize the lines between boxes on the computer. I think. I don't know. Jim?
Also. What are the three family members going to wear? I have the last scenes of the whole novel, so I want to be sure they match up. Anybody have ideas for the mom, dad, daughter, and the cleaning woman?
Sister: Couldn't find a description, but I see her as being very feminine, so some sort of dress, maybe something generic like this: http://fash224.tripod.com/test-4.img/1900-37.jpg
Father: It talks about him refusing to take off his attendant's uniform (1662), so it should be a bit messy, refer to the text (gold buttons, etc.). Does someone want to find a good picture of one online? I couldn't. Should he have a mustache? It also mentions that he wears a cap (1665).
Mother: Again, probably a generic dress of the time period. We could use the one above and then just use a different color/shade it to make it darker to differentiate her from the sister, or someone could find a better picture. Also, they could have two different hairstyles: bun for the mother, hair down for the sister? Or they could have two different hair colors.
Charwoman: She's described as "gigantic" and "bony" and has "white hair fluttering around her head" (1662). Should she have a bun, perhaps, with some hair springing loose? This is the only picture of a charwoman I could find: http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/fsa/8b14000/8b14800/8b14845r.jpg
Boarders: They all have "full beards" and are described as "sticklers for order" (1664-5), so they should probably just wear a very neat version of the clothing of the time. Here's an example: http://grossmanproject.net/images/Men%20in%20front%20of%20the%20Lumber%20Exchange,%201900.jpg
Also, I think Jim's right about the wood floor. In any case, since we aren't coloring until Monday, we can talk about it then.
Good deal. So. Daughter's dress---blue? Mom's dress---same style, but grey or black? The Charwoman's dress you have looks good. Maybe Black/grey with white dots? For the dad, I was picturing something kind of like a cross between a marching band uniform and the uniforms those doormen who stand by the really really expensive apartment building in NYC wear. Maybe navy blue with gold buttons. Kind of like this, but with gold buttons: http://mach1consulting.com/Uppereast/DoormenJerry.jpg So I'm assuming we're going to have all the main characters wear the same thing throughout so that everyone can tell who they are. That is true, right? If not, how much are we going to change their clothes?
And regarding speech bubbles, all of which should have <1/16" lines around them and be typed in 10-pt all CAPS Comic Sans MS:
Narrator: boxes, text italicized (We're using an impersonal narrator, right?)
Speech: rounded boxes with a tail
Thought: your generic, fluffy thought bubble
I'll send an email with examples of the above. Mr. Sharp said we had to draw the boxes, but these should serve as an example. If you don't have a scanner to add the text, perhaps you could give Jim your script and he could add it? Not sure.
Is it possible for Jim to change the margins in between the boxes and put text in? I don't have a scanner to use well, and the margins between boxes I used were based on Victoria's suggestions on a quarter inch margin.
Laura: Yes. Hairstyles sound good. I liked the mom's hair up, daughter's hair down idea. For the daughter, I say slightly wavy hair that hits about halfway between her shoulders and her waist. Cool?
Joe: I bet that will work. Most computers can shrink stuff down once a page is scanned, and Jim said he had Photoshop anyway. And Photoshop can do anything. So I wouldn't worry about it.
Is everyone okay with the dad's uniform looking like the link I posted earlier?
Portrait, definitely, though there could be some double-page spreads. And normally I hate comic sans, but for a comic in all caps it's sort of standard, and almost every computer already has it.
So for the charwoman. It says she's supposed to have an small ostrich feather in her hat. Any ideas on what that should look like? Also. I've drawn my first picture that has all three family members in it. Their faces are pretty round, and they are just very basic. I'm hoping that's okay...
I think that 1/8" line around a box is kind of thick. A simple bold line will serve the purpose and is probably more practical. If someone has already used the thick line, I guess it'll have to do. But otherwise, I think a thinner line would be better.
Well, it's a little late for thinner lines on mine, but if everyone else wants thinner lines I suppose I or someone else with a scanner could change them.
ok, I believe that I am doing the title pages as well as my single page panel of the beginning. I have a good Idea of what should be on the one page of the beginning, but what should I do for the title pages? Any suggestions?
IMPORTANT: The dad wears a robe in Chapter 1. HE HASN'T STARTED WEARING A UNIFORM YET. The robe will long sleeved, coming half way down between his knees and ankles. He is wearing fuzzy slippers as well! Also, I've decided that the 1/8 outline for the boxes are WAY too thick so just outline it with normal pen and make it the same thickness as the drawings!
Alright I got my drawings done. I have a half inch border with a thin line bordering everything. Hope that's okay with everybody. I inked my stuff, unless you need me to scan it and print it before coloring it on Monday.
The text says that Grete's room is on the right of Gregor's head when he is in bed.
There may be a side door to Gregor's room, as his dad knocks on it.
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Dominic, are you only doing Gregor in bed just waking up? I might begin drawing at "Just as he was thinking this all over at top speed" but I can start drawing earlier than that if you need me to.
Meg, I'm stopping at the end of the paragraph that begins with "Something fell in there" and ends with "but he did not dare raise his voice enough for his sister to hear." This is page 9 on the Bantam Classics version (reddish cover).
Louisa: No, just follow the guidelines for margins and stuff (though the lines around the boxes should be thin, we scrapped that one, but the rest should still apply).
Father: It talks about him refusing to take off his attendant's uniform (1662), so it should be a bit messy, refer to the text (gold buttons, etc.). Does someone want to find a good picture of one online? I couldn't. Should he have a mustache? It also mentions that he wears a cap (1665).
The dad has short brown hair and is wearing a bathrobe. Also, check your your email Louisa, you should have received a picture with Dominic's drawing of the bug. I think everyone is copying that.
Did you guys get my google docs thing? It has all the details on it!
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Everybody who is not blogging is an idiot! This is because blogging is the best thing in the world!
I had to take back the previous two comments becaue I singled out individual students, which was not right. But you'll never know who, will you!?! No, you won't. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
EVERYONE BE WARNED: (I already sent this out via email, but just in case...)
there are inconsistencies within the group's work, as well as with some individual's stuff...don't be surprised if i find you tomorrow during lunch and tell you to change something for me by the end of the day.
Hey, whoever has the large email list, could you send it out? We sort of have to communicate.
ReplyDeleteVictoria
so we need to elect a leader and then divide up the book into sections. does anyone want to volunteer?
ReplyDeleteSTART GETTIN FRIENDLY
ReplyDeletewith your chapter of the Metamorphosis, of course.
I:
Victoria
Dominic
Ivy
Joe W
Meg
Sophia
Jack
II:
Kara
Jim
Max
Rachel
Txai
Neal
Allison
Annie
III:
Laura
Louisa
Amanda
Merek
Joe G
Josh S
Peter
Becky
merek/jim are in charge of compiling all the hand drawn artwork onto the computer. amanda, since you had a pretty clear idea of a medium you should talk with merek/jim.
ReplyDeletenext class i guess we should assign specific parts to people then do it over the weekend. if we do it that way, everyone MUST bring their finished drawing in on monday!!!!!!!!!!!
....but we'll talk on friday
Ok, here are the pictures I came up with for Chapter III:
ReplyDelete1) Gregor's injury, with the apple and such, costs him mobility but compels his family to treat him like a human for a time and let him sit by the parlor door; he watches the mother and sister trying to coax the father to bed, though he insists on staying up a bit longer (1661-2)
2) No one has time to look after Gregor in this busy household; the maid is dismissed and the charwoman is hired; because of Gregor, the family cannot move into a new apartment (show a family discussion? not sure) (1662-3)
3) The family works hard, father fetching breakfast for minor bank tellers, sister working behind the counter, etc.; Gregor worries about his family and dreams of his past life (1663)
4) The sister begins to neglect Gregor, caring less about the food she brings and tidying the room only in the evenings --> his room gets filthier; the mother goes in to clean Gregor's room, sister gets angry --> fighting in the family (1663-4)
5) Charwoman accidentally comes upon Gregor, but is unfazed, even later when Gregor pretends he's going to attack her (1664)
6) The household takes on three boarders, who bring their own luggage, so the family begins to store excess in Gregor's room (1664-5)
7) The family leaves the door between Gregor's room and the parlor closed in order to avoid disturbing the boarders, although once the charwoman left it open and Gregor saw the household serve them potatoes and such; Gregor compares how well the boarders eat to his own starvation; the family eats in the kitchen (1665)
8) The sister begins to play her violin in the kitchen, and the boarders stop reading the paper to listen; the sister moves to the parlor (1665-6)
9) Gregor, drawn by the music, ventures out into the parlor, and imagines his sister venturing into his room for him alone and sending her to the music conservatory (1666-7)
10) The boarders notice Gregor; chaos ensues and the boarders give notice (1667)
11) The sister explodes, arguing that they must get rid of Gregor (1668)
12) Gregor wheels around and back into his room; the family reacts with fear; Gregor finally makes it back into his room, and the sister slams the door behind him; Gregor finds he cannot move and dies (1668-9)
13) The charwoman discovers Gregor's corpse; the family learns Gregor is dead and they thank God (1669-70)
14) The father banishes the boarders (1670-1)
15) The family decides to take a day to celebrate and write to their superiors; the charwoman says she has already “taken care of” Gregor's body; the father says she will be dismissed that night and calls the family to forget the past (1671)
16) The family leaves the apartment and takes a trolley to the countryside and discuss their bright future; the daughter gets out of the carriage first and her parents realize her potential (1672)
Should we have an impersonal narrator or Gregor as narrator, or no narrator at all? Roughly how many panels per page/how should they be outlined (need it be consistent)? We should also flesh out the color idea . . . this can come later, though, and I think we should all ink our drawings (if done by hand) first. Perhaps start almost full-color, then start eliminating them as Gregor gets less human, then add them back in after his death?
Also, after we pick what we're doing, we should try to coordinate with the people who have the scenes directly before and after ours to make sure everything flows. Each of these should probably have several panels and may amount to several pages. If we don't cut these down, each person should have two of these bullets, preferably consecutive ones (they're already grouped together above). If possible, I'd like to do 9-10, though I'm up for anything, and I know Becky mentioned something about wanting to do 15-16. Please post which ones you'd like to do and any changes you'd like to make so we can keep a master list. We'll finalize everything Friday and start getting some sort of standard format put together, I suppose (borders, speech bubbles, title pages, etc.).
What are we going to do regarding words? Will we handwrite everything or do it on the computer or what?
ReplyDeleteI think it would probably be good to type it, that way it looks neater, just standardize the font...we can discuss such things Friday.
ReplyDeleteFor Gregor the beetle/vermin/bug thing, the entire class should probably base their drawing off one model /picture. Gregor has pincer-headgear, he's dark, has a hard shell, lots of legs. I think these pictures might work as a guides. Unless some people envision him more of a millipede (lots of legs!)?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/icm/files/images/carabid-I2.jpg
http://bugguide.net/images/cache/6L3LNLJLTLKRSHGRLHQRTZMRDZMRDZ7RJZQRDZYL1L2R3Z3LOZXR2L7RTZZZOZ7RWLFLCZHZPLKZ0H7ZHH0RHH5R.jpg
http://www.hootingyard.org/archive/beetle.jpg
Victoria
Chapter I:
ReplyDelete1) When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin. -- probably a full page drawing of a beetle in bed? It allows you to add in the other parts of his room, like the window, alarm clock, randomly framed magazine picture? I think it would be fun to caption this with the first sentence.
2)Gregor rocking back and forth on his bed, trying to get up, his mother and sister behind opposite walls asking what is the matter.
3)Manager comes to the house. Gregor falls to the ground with a bang.
4)Manager still asking for Gregor, Gregor attempting to respond, sounds like an animal.
5) Grete and Anna run to get the doctor and the locksmith.
6) Gregor uses his 'teeth' to unlock the door.
7) Gregor comes out. Everyone's shocked faces, knocking over coffee. Manager runs away.
8) Father starts to stamp and chase Gregor, who is walking backward. Gregor turns around and moves forward.
9) Gregor gets stuck in the door. Father kicks him in.
*I would like to do either (2) or (9). These are a rough outline, we can change the page divides and combine or split pages. The minimum number of pages we can produce is 7, one for each person.
Victoria
I'll try to get the email list posted up sometime today. Sorry I didn't last night. Laura had more than 8 scenes which brings up a good conflict of interest.
ReplyDeleteNaturally some chapters are going to have more key scenes than others, so Kara needs to finish Chapter 2's scene list and on Friday, as a whole, we will decide which are most important and cut if necessary, or if individuals are willing, some people can do more than one scene.
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Hey Victoria, I'm really digging the http://www.hootingyard.org/archive/beetle.jpg beetle picture. I also really like the scene ideas you have. My favorites are scenes six and seven.
ReplyDeleteI also think that we should have a vote on the pictures you have up there, because they aren't the same bug, if you look at them even remotely closely, but the one I referenced above has more of what I was thinking going on.
Another thing is, on Friday, we should split into the three chapter groups after we finish standardizing the main points. That way we can split up work more efficiently, rather than having the whole class work with the other groups. That might sound obvious, but sometimes the obvious is over looked.
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ReplyDeleteI have a picture of the notes we took on the board today. I can't figure out how to post it so I will go ahead and email it. Check your emails. If you don't get it, then your email may be wrong on the above list.
ReplyDeletem.wood@gmail.com, joe.whitsett.com@aol.com
ReplyDeletethese two email addresses wouldn't go through for some reason
sorry about that. I got mine mixed up. it's joe.whitsett.com@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteAnother thing. Whoever is doing scene five needs to message and or email me about what their last scene is so that I can start my first scene in the right place.
ReplyDeleteFor the entire graphic novel -- we need standards for the outside margins and the gaps between panels... maybe 1 inch all around the page left empty, then 1/4 inch for in between boxes? Just a suggestion.
ReplyDeleteAlright. Chapter I scenes. You aren't limited to one page, I don't think. Panels or full page, whichever is appropriate.
Read the section for details -- and to make sure I didn't mess up the order of things.
1) Dominic
2) Victoria
3) Vic
4) Meg
5) Sofia
6) Joe
7) Dominic
8) Angela
9) Ivy
Jack, if you don't mind, you got moved because the other chapters have more stuff going on.
Yay! Victoria
Alright. Actually, I'm going to start my scene with Gregor Samsa climbing up the dresser and such. The last scene will be Gregor finally getting the lock turned, since the next scene is Gregor opening the door.
ReplyDeleteSorry. In the beginning of my scene he will be against the chair, about to throw himself against the door. My bad.
ReplyDeleteIs Gregor's body black or brown? I was thinking brown would be more appropriate.
ReplyDeleteI kind of agree with Joe about the brown, though I suppose he'll be black in the later chapters with the absence of color. Speaking of which, in the last section, which color are we keeping? Red? Also, we're going with an impersonal narrator, right? I think we should either draw out our pictures with places left for text and write a script for Jim to type it in once he scans it, or we should pick a standard font if people want to do it themselves.
ReplyDeleteThis is a compilation of info so far on my behalf. Be sure to look at the stuff towards the end. That is info taken directly from the text (I've only gone through the first few pages). Make sure you do the same for your scene to ensure everything is consistent with the text.
ReplyDeleteChapter I
1) When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin. -- probably a full page drawing of a beetle in bed? It allows you to add in the other parts of his room, like the window, alarm clock, randomly framed magazine picture? I think it would be fun to caption this with the first sentence.
2)Gregor rocking back and forth on his bed, trying to get up, his mother and sister behind opposite walls asking what is the matter.
3)Manager comes to the house. Gregor falls to the ground with a bang. 4)Manager still asking for Gregor, Gregor attempting to respond, sounds like an animal.
5) Grete and Anna run to get the doctor and the locksmith.
6) Gregor uses his 'teeth' to unlock the door.
7) Gregor comes out. Everyone's shocked faces, knocking over coffee. Manager runs away.
8) Father starts to stamp and chase Gregor, who is walking backward. Gregor turns around and moves forward.
9) Gregor gets stuck in the door. Father kicks him in.
Chapter II
1) Sister feeds Gregor
2) Throws away food
3) Listens to conversations through walls/Family discusses how they will cope
4) Sister’s dream of playing violin
5) Covers self with sheet
6) Sister and mom move chest of drawers
7) Gregor breaks out of the sheet
8) Father comes home and throws apples
Chapter III
1) Gregor's injury, with the apple and such, costs him mobility but compels his family to treat him like a human for a time and let him sit by the parlor door; he watches the mother and sister trying to coax the father to bed, though he insists on staying up a bit longer (1661-2)
2) No one has time to look after Gregor in this busy household; the maid is dismissed and the charwoman is hired; because of Gregor, the family cannot move into a new apartment (show a family discussion? not sure) (1662-3)
3) The family works hard, father fetching breakfast for minor bank tellers, sister working behind the counter, etc.; Gregor worries about his family and dreams of his past life (1663)
4) The sister begins to neglect Gregor, caring less about the food she brings and tidying the room only in the evenings --> his room gets filthier; the mother goes in to clean Gregor's room, sister gets angry --> fighting in the family (1663-4)
5) Charwoman accidentally comes upon Gregor, but is unfazed, even later when Gregor pretends he's going to attack her (1664)
6) The household takes on three boarders, who bring their own luggage, so the family begins to store excess in Gregor's room (1664-5)
7) The family leaves the door between Gregor's room and the parlor closed in order to avoid disturbing the boarders, although once the charwoman left it open and Gregor saw the household serve them potatoes and such; Gregor compares how well the boarders eat to his own starvation; the family eats in the kitchen (1665)
8) The sister begins to play her violin in the kitchen, and the boarders stop reading the paper to listen; the sister moves to the parlor (1665-6)
9) Gregor, drawn by the music, ventures out into the parlor, and imagines his sister venturing into his room for him alone and sending her to the music conservatory (1666-7)
10) The boarders notice Gregor; chaos ensues and the boarders give notice (1667)
11) The sister explodes, arguing that they must get rid of Gregor (1668)
12) Gregor wheels around and back into his room; the family reacts with fear; Gregor finally makes it back into his room, and the sister slams the door behind him; Gregor finds he cannot move and dies (1668-9)
13) The charwoman discovers Gregor's corpse; the family learns Gregor is dead and they thank God (1669-70)
14) The father banishes the boarders (1670-1)
15) The family decides to take a day to celebrate and write to their superiors; the charwoman says she has already “taken care of” Gregor's body; the father says she will be dismissed that night and calls the family to forget the past (1671)
16) The family leaves the apartment and takes a trolley to the countryside and discuss their bright future; the daughter gets out of the carriage first and her parents realize her potential (1672)
Color Schemes:
Walls: Peach
Chest: Brown
Table: Brown
Couch: Red
Chair: Brown
Floor: Grey
Pillows: White
Bug:
Armorlike back
Brown, vaulted belly partitioned by arching ridges
Many thin legs
Belly has tiny white specks
Very broad
Bed has carpet beneath it
Room:
Alarm clock on the wardrobe
Photo of naked lady
Wooden door
Door has a lock
Oh, and the color schemes are what was written on the board, but discussion needs to occur regarding some of them because I don't think they are consistent with the text. For instance, the story is set in the early 1900's therefore the floor was most likely not grey, but rather brown because it would be composed of wood.
ReplyDeleteBecky wrote this during class:
ReplyDeleteGroup 3 Assignments:
1/2 - Amanda
3/4 - Peter
5/6 - Joe Gillbert
7/8 - Merek
9/10 - Laura
11/12 - Josh S
13/14 - Louisa
15/ 16 - Becky
Group 2 assignments: (according to the scenes jim has a few posts up)
ReplyDelete1. Kara
2. Jim
3. Max
4. Rachel
5. Txai
6. Neal
7. Allison
8. Annie
I was not here yesterday so I am somewhat confused as to what is going on. Are we drawing our pictures and leaving space for Jim to add the words? Also, as far as the colors and grayscale, etc. what single color do we leave? Finally, what have we decided about borders, margins and other general formatting things?
ReplyDeleteOkay how about, NO ONE WORRIES ABOUT COLORING RIGHT NOW. Coloring takes 5 seconds, so I think we should try to do that together (maybe in class on Monday?). Everyone can bring a set of color pencils. If we color together, it's more likely that our cartoons will be consistent. DOn't forget to outline your work in black pen (not gel) before you come to class.
ReplyDeleteJoe: Mr. Sharp said that one page is minimum for everyone. This means that when your stuff is put into the final product it must fill up an entire page.
ReplyDeleteYes. Draw your pictures with regards to columns and margins, but don't worry too much about them. I will crop stuff and resize to fit according to the margins and columns I put in. I can't remember what they decided regarding speech bubbles and/or narrator boxes. Angela's idea is probably best for color.
Just a note on that: we are going to use the transition idea to correlate with his dehumanization. So starting full color then gradually working to none/black and white.
Essentially there was a lot of discussion, but very little progress was made which is why people need to get more active on here.
And also...I won't have time for this because I have to leave for work in a couple of minutes, but it might be beneficial for us if some people went to take a gander at the other classes blogs to see how they are doing things. This might help us greatly in figuring out how we need to organize this whole ordeal.
-Jim
Angela's idea about the whole coloring thing sounds great to me. But Victoria was right in wondering about margins and stuff. I would think perhaps 1/2 inch margins around the page and then just draw thick black lines---maybe 1/8 or so---separating any boxes you may have. We could also standardize the lines between boxes on the computer. I think. I don't know. Jim?
ReplyDeleteAlso. What are the three family members going to wear? I have the last scenes of the whole novel, so I want to be sure they match up. Anybody have ideas for the mom, dad, daughter, and the cleaning woman?
ReplyDeleteOk, for the 3 family members:
ReplyDeleteSister: Couldn't find a description, but I see her as being very feminine, so some sort of dress, maybe something generic like this:
http://fash224.tripod.com/test-4.img/1900-37.jpg
Father: It talks about him refusing to take off his attendant's uniform (1662), so it should be a bit messy, refer to the text (gold buttons, etc.). Does someone want to find a good picture of one online? I couldn't. Should he have a mustache? It also mentions that he wears a cap (1665).
Mother: Again, probably a generic dress of the time period. We could use the one above and then just use a different color/shade it to make it darker to differentiate her from the sister, or someone could find a better picture. Also, they could have two different hairstyles: bun for the mother, hair down for the sister? Or they could have two different hair colors.
Charwoman: She's described as "gigantic" and "bony" and has "white hair fluttering around her head" (1662). Should she have a bun, perhaps, with some hair springing loose? This is the only picture of a charwoman I could find:
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/fsa/8b14000/8b14800/8b14845r.jpg
Boarders: They all have "full beards" and are described as "sticklers for order" (1664-5), so they should probably just wear a very neat version of the clothing of the time. Here's an example:
http://grossmanproject.net/images/Men%20in%20front%20of%20the%20Lumber%20Exchange,%201900.jpg
Also, I think Jim's right about the wood floor. In any case, since we aren't coloring until Monday, we can talk about it then.
ALSO:
ReplyDeleteUnless anyone has a problem with it, I'm going to go ahead and say that the margins will be as follows:
On an 8 1/2" x 11" sheet of paper:
1/2" margins around the edge
3/8" margins between boxes
~1/8" lines around boxes
This should make Jim's compilation a bit easier :)
Good deal. So. Daughter's dress---blue?
ReplyDeleteMom's dress---same style, but grey or black?
The Charwoman's dress you have looks good. Maybe Black/grey with white dots?
For the dad, I was picturing something kind of like a cross between a marching band uniform and the uniforms those doormen who stand by the really really expensive apartment building in NYC wear. Maybe navy blue with gold buttons. Kind of like this, but with gold buttons: http://mach1consulting.com/Uppereast/DoormenJerry.jpg
So I'm assuming we're going to have all the main characters wear the same thing throughout so that everyone can tell who they are. That is true, right? If not, how much are we going to change their clothes?
And regarding speech bubbles, all of which should have <1/16" lines around them and be typed in 10-pt all CAPS Comic Sans MS:
ReplyDeleteNarrator: boxes, text italicized (We're using an impersonal narrator, right?)
Speech: rounded boxes with a tail
Thought: your generic, fluffy thought bubble
I'll send an email with examples of the above. Mr. Sharp said we had to draw the boxes, but these should serve as an example. If you don't have a scanner to add the text, perhaps you could give Jim your script and he could add it? Not sure.
I say we keep their clothes the same throughout. 'Twill make things infinitely easier. Shall we use the hairstyles above?
ReplyDeleteIs it possible for Jim to change the margins in between the boxes and put text in? I don't have a scanner to use well, and the margins between boxes I used were based on Victoria's suggestions on a quarter inch margin.
ReplyDeleteLaura: Yes. Hairstyles sound good. I liked the mom's hair up, daughter's hair down idea. For the daughter, I say slightly wavy hair that hits about halfway between her shoulders and her waist. Cool?
ReplyDeleteJoe: I bet that will work. Most computers can shrink stuff down once a page is scanned, and Jim said he had Photoshop anyway. And Photoshop can do anything. So I wouldn't worry about it.
Is everyone okay with the dad's uniform looking like the link I posted earlier?
Comic Sans, Laura? uh... But it is a *comic* so I guess we can let it slide...
ReplyDeleteWill the comic pages be landscape or portrait?
I vote portrait. It's just easier.
ReplyDeleteSame here.
ReplyDeletePortrait, definitely, though there could be some double-page spreads. And normally I hate comic sans, but for a comic in all caps it's sort of standard, and almost every computer already has it.
ReplyDeleteSo for the charwoman. It says she's supposed to have an small ostrich feather in her hat. Any ideas on what that should look like?
ReplyDeleteAlso. I've drawn my first picture that has all three family members in it. Their faces are pretty round, and they are just very basic. I'm hoping that's okay...
This is the best thing I found, but I don't know that it fits this character. Opinions?
ReplyDeletehttp://people.mydesk.net.au/rh/lg_hat/hat68b.jpg
I think that 1/8" line around a box is kind of thick. A simple bold line will serve the purpose and is probably more practical. If someone has already used the thick line, I guess it'll have to do. But otherwise, I think a thinner line would be better.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's a little late for thinner lines on mine, but if everyone else wants thinner lines I suppose I or someone else with a scanner could change them.
ReplyDeleteok, I believe that I am doing the title pages as well as my single page panel of the beginning. I have a good Idea of what should be on the one page of the beginning, but what should I do for the title pages? Any suggestions?
ReplyDeleteOh Dominic, you should contact Victoria. She signed you up for two scenes.
ReplyDeleteAre there any preferences about what the human Gregor should look like because I have to draw him in his memories?
ReplyDeleteno not really. how but just wearing a white and black business suit. short hair. caring suitcase.
ReplyDeleteIMPORTANT: The dad wears a robe in Chapter 1. HE HASN'T STARTED WEARING A UNIFORM YET. The robe will long sleeved, coming half way down between his knees and ankles. He is wearing fuzzy slippers as well! Also, I've decided that the 1/8 outline for the boxes are WAY too thick so just outline it with normal pen and make it the same thickness as the drawings!
ReplyDeleteAlright I got my drawings done. I have a half inch border with a thin line bordering everything. Hope that's okay with everybody. I inked my stuff, unless you need me to scan it and print it before coloring it on Monday.
ReplyDeleteDo we need to add in the typed words before Monday? For those of us without any image editing software, that could be very difficult.
ReplyDeleteI'd say put in the text if at all possible, otherwise Jim will have to do it.
ReplyDeleteA few things -
ReplyDeleteThe text says that Grete's room is on the right of Gregor's head when he is in bed.
There may be a side door to Gregor's room, as his dad knocks on it.
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Dominic, are you only doing Gregor in bed just waking up? I might begin drawing at "Just as he was thinking this all over at top speed" but I can start drawing earlier than that if you need me to.
Meg, I'm stopping at the end of the paragraph that begins with "Something fell in there" and ends with "but he did not dare raise his voice enough for his sister to hear." This is page 9 on the Bantam Classics version (reddish cover).
Victoria =)
Should we keep the script inside the Graphic novel exactly consistent with the book? or should we shorten it to retain only the important points?
ReplyDeleteDoes it matter how big the boxes are?
ReplyDeleteLouisa: No, just follow the guidelines for margins and stuff (though the lines around the boxes should be thin, we scrapped that one, but the rest should still apply).
ReplyDeleteFrom my reading of the text, Gregor's room has three doors -- one for each of his other family members to knock on. Should I draw them in?
ReplyDeletethis was a bad time to be absent for so long.
ReplyDeleteVictoria said I got moved to a different group. which one? and which part am i doing in that group?
Also, which bug did we decide on?
ReplyDeletewhat does the dad look like?
ReplyDeleteDominic:
ReplyDeleteThis is what Laura decided on:
Father: It talks about him refusing to take off his attendant's uniform (1662), so it should be a bit messy, refer to the text (gold buttons, etc.). Does someone want to find a good picture of one online? I couldn't. Should he have a mustache? It also mentions that he wears a cap (1665).
The dad has short brown hair and is wearing a bathrobe. Also, check your your email Louisa, you should have received a picture with Dominic's drawing of the bug. I think everyone is copying that.
ReplyDeleteDid you guys get my google docs thing? It has all the details on it!
Also, Becky found a picture of the dad's uniform for Part III, it's posted above.
ReplyDeletehm.
ReplyDeletei'm not gonna have anything drawn for tomorrow.
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ReplyDeleteMuahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMysterious Blogger!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Stupid sophmores, slaving away while Mr. Sharp whips you with his moustache whips!
Fools! All of you!
I could make a really long post and make every one of you scroll through it every time you look at this blog, but I am not that big of a jerk. Just a mysterious blogger who tells stupid people that they are stupid. Stupid!
Everybody who is not blogging is an idiot! This is because blogging is the best thing in the world!
I had to take back the previous two comments becaue I singled out individual students, which was not right. But you'll never know who, will you!?! No, you won't. Remember the Mysterious Blogger forever!
Ok....so I just found out I'm using 3/16" space between panels, which I think makes more sense. In any case, we can change it later.
ReplyDeleteCOLOR SCHEME:
ReplyDelete1st: Full Color
2nd: mostly shading in grey (leave all reds, yellows, blues)
3rd: grayscale (don't forget to include shading...DON'T JUST OUTLINE)
EVERYONE BE WARNED: (I already sent this out via email, but just in case...)
ReplyDeletethere are inconsistencies within the group's work, as well as with some individual's stuff...don't be surprised if i find you tomorrow during lunch and tell you to change something for me by the end of the day.